Chica Travel with Lelo

I asked an economist to lend me his eyes.

Prof Adrian Saville has been to almost 100 countries. He also studies how countries work, which means he walks through the same airports and streets we do and sees something completely different.

We talk about what he notices first when he lands, whether travel is money well spent, what our spending actually does in the places we visit, and why it is still so hard for Africans to move around Africa.

Prof Adrian Saville is Professor of Economics, Finance and Strategy at the Gordon Institute of Business Science and can be found X: @AdrianSaville What an Economist Sees When He Travels | Prof Adrian Saville

What happens when you strip away the expectations of work, family, and public life? According to Hulisani Ravele, you find your "fullness." In this intimate conversation, Hulisani and I explore the transformative power of the passport. Hulisani shares her evolution into a meticulous "Project Manager" of her own joy and we delve into the spiritual weight of Morocco, the "un-Hulisani" chaos of Amsterdam, and the visceral thrill of the F1 paddock. This episode is a call to action for every professional woman to view travel not just as an escape, but as a non-negotiable act of self-reverence and a reward for the hard work of living. Hulisani Ravele On Travel As Self Love

Nikiwe Bikitsha is one of the reasons this podcast exists. Years before I started Chica Travel, I heard her travel across the continent on 702's Africa Connected and thought, what if I did this?

In this episode she takes me from a childhood in Mthatha glued to the news, to countries across the continent, to three weeks in Pakistan, to Japan, and to Oxford finding her when she was not looking. We talk about curiosity as a way of moving through the world, seeing a city by running through it, the places we overlook, and the love she was met with everywhere she went in Africa.

Watch the video version on YouTube at Chica Travel with Lelo, find me on Instagram at @chicatravelpodcast, and if you enjoyed this one, please leave a review. It helps more than you know. Nikiwe Bikitsha:

She grew up in exile across five African countries, built one of the most decorated marketing careers in South Africa, and somewhere along the way decided she was going to live life at full speed.

Khensani Nobanda has been to 87 countries, stood in the Monza pits while Red Bull engineers played reggae, lost her passport in Cappadocia and somehow ended up on a yacht on the Bosphorus, and turned 40 on Halong Bay surrounded by 40 of the people she loves most.

But the thing that made me want to have this conversation was not her CV.

It was her energy.

This episode is about Formula 1, the 50 Before 50 list, Istanbul, travel philosophy, work life integration, choosing joy now, and refusing to wait for life to begin. Youtube

She grew up in exile across five African countries, built one of the most decorated marketing careers in South Africa, and somewhere along the way decided she was going to live life at full speed.

Khensani Nobanda has been to 87 countries, stood in the Monza pits while Red Bull engineers played reggae, lost her passport in Cappadocia and somehow ended up on a yacht on the Bosphorus, and turned 40 on Halong Bay surrounded by 40 of the people she loves most.

But the thing that made me want to have this conversation was not her CV.

It was her energy.

This episode is about Formula 1, the 50 Before 50 list, Istanbul, travel philosophy, work life integration, choosing joy now, and refusing to wait for life to begin. Youtube