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Welcome to the first episode of Season 2 of Think Deep! – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating.
In this episode, we travel to the Northeast Pacific to explore the deep ocean between the west coast of Canada and Hawaii. Our special guests, Dr Cherisse Du Preez and Dr Sara Kahanamoku, share their stories and showcase how science and traditional knowledge weave together to tell the story of the deep ocean to inspire stewardship and engagement in the region.
If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Learn more about the NorthEast Pacific Deep-sea Exploration Project (NEPDEP) that Cherisse leads

Read the guidance document for working with Indigenous communities that Sara mentioned and learn more about best practices and guiding questions for reciprocal community-researcher partnerships – Kūlana Noiʻi 

Learn more about Motion 32 from the 2025 IUCN World Conservation Congress – Protecting seamounts and vulnerable marine ecosystems from destructive practices, and read the recommendations to the management of seamount ecosystems to the North Pacific Fisheries Commission (NPFC) produced as a result of the DOSI Seamount Science Summit

Deepen your knowledge of the region with the recent Challenger 150 review paper on the ‘State of deep-sea science and conservation in the Northeast Pacific: implications for policy and management’

Explore the Papahānaumokuākea National Marine Sanctuary  

Find out more about Cherisse’s cool career – People of the Ocean Decade: Dr. Cherisse Du Preez  

Dive into deep-ocean stewardship with DOSI 

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.
Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
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Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future. Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

8 regions. 16 special guests across 14 nations. One ocean. This is Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep-Ocean Voices Around the World.  
Join us as we uncover the unique deep-ocean challenges, opportunities and connections across different parts of our blue planet.
Enjoy this sneak peek, and keep an eye out for Episode 1, coming Monday, 7 September.

Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future. Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the season finale of Think Deep! and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating.

In this episode, we are wrapping up the season by reflecting on what we’ve learned and what still lies ahead, with the team behind the podcast. We’re debriefing about all the topics covered in this season and exploring the wider context of deep-ocean governance from the perspectives of three early-career researchers – Dr Elin Thomas, deep-sea scientist and DOSI’s Communication Manager; Eesha Rangani, public policy master student in the Global School of Policy and Strategy at UC San Diego; and Michelle Guraieb, oceanographer and host of Think Deep!

Check out the resources below and get involved in deep-ocean stewardship and governance today!
Join one of DOSI’s specialist Working Groups or overarching Task Forces – there’s something for everyone, and it’s a great way to get started in the science-policy space.

Get involved with YOUNGO (The Official Youth Constituency of the UNFCCC) and RINGO (Research and Independent Non-Governmental Organisations constituency to the UNFCCC) as Eesha suggested in the episode.

Check out the Ocean Discovery League website to find out more about their Accessing the Deep training and mentoring programme that Michelle mentioned.

Follow along with livestreams of deep-sea research and exploration in action with the Ocean Exploration Trust and Schmidt Ocean Institute – amazing resources that bring the deep ocean directly to you.
Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities.

Finally, if you’re looking for more podcasts about the deep sea or ocean governance, be sure to check out Negotiating the Ocean from the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security, for conversations with people from all over the world directly involved in international ocean negotiations, and The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson!

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani.
Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support.

Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the penultimate episode of this series of Think Deep!, and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating.

In this episode, we discuss the importance of scale in ocean governance with Professor Kerry Sink. Kerry is the marine program manager and a principal scientist at the South African National Biodiversity Institute. We’re so lucky to have Kerry joining the podcast to share her knowledge and experiences in marine spatial planning and the design of marine protected areas.

Check out the resources below to learn more about the role of marine spatial planning in deep-ocean governance:
Learn more about the Global Biodiversity Framework's ‘30x30’ Target discussed during the episode – an international goal to conserve 30% of the ocean by 2030. The IUCN have created a detailed guide to the target and its implementation, which you can find here.

Kerry talks about the importance of engaging with all different stakeholders and the complexities of navigating these relationships. Kerry developed a schematic called the stakeholder onion to illustrate the various stakeholder processes at play. Learn more about the onion and MPA design in this paper.

Learn more about Vulnerable Marine Ecosystems – what they are, how they’re identified, and more – from the FAO website.

Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities.

Finally, if you’re looking for more podcasts about the deep sea or ocean governance, be sure to check out Negotiating the Ocean from the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security, for conversations with people from all over the world directly involved in international ocean negotiations, and The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson!

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani.
Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support.

Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome back to Episode 4 of Think Deep!, and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating.
In this episode, we discuss ocean governance beyond national jurisdiction with international law of the sea expert, Pradeep Singh. Pradeep is also a valued member of DOSI’s Advisory Board and has been involved in ocean governance discussions for almost a decade. We’re grateful to Pradeep for joining us to help break down the various governance systems in place.

Check out the resources below to learn more about governance in areas beyond national jurisdiction and the new BBNJ Agreement that Pradeep and Michelle discuss in this episode:
Become a member of DOSI’s BBNJ and Marine Genetic Resources Working Groups, and get involved in advancing deep-ocean science in global ocean governance!
Watch this short video, produced by DOSI - High Seas, High Stakes: What’s the BBNJ Agreement?
Keep track of which countries have ratified the BBNJ Agreement using this tracker from the High Seas Alliance.
Find out how much deep sea (i.e. waters deeper than 200 m) is in your country’s Exclusive Economic Zone using this interactive map.
Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities.

Finally, if you’re a fan of the deep sea and want to dive deeper, be sure to check out The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson!

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani.
Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support.

Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897