THE SAVAGE NATION

In this prescient interview, Savage speaks with Pat Buchanan about issues that would become increasingly important in the years that followed, including China's growing economic power, national security, foreign ownership of American assets, cybersecurity, trade deficits, manufacturing losses, immigration, and American sovereignty. Savage argued that the proposed 3Com deal involving Chinese telecommunications company Huawei should be blocked on national-security grounds, questioned Goldman Sachs' influence in Washington, and urged Americans to apply the kind of public pressure that helped stop the Dubai ports deal. They also discuss the consequences of NAFTA and America's trade deficit with Mexico, and the loss of U.S. manufacturing. They issue a warning about the border, demographic change, and immigration. They chastise the Bush-era embrace of globalization and question whether America was sacrificing its sovereignty.

Michael Savage opens with a prescient quote from Malcolm Muggeridge arguing the West is "training its own destroyers." He warns that Western civilization is nearing extinction through internal decadence and a Muslim invasion and seventh-century "throwback" Islam exemplified by Iran. He discusses the wars with Iran and Ukraine and their continuing challenges for the West. Savage illustrates how Israel is a Western "fort" in the Islamic world, raising questions about how long it can endure the never-ending conflicts with the jihadists. He explains how the rising tide of socialism, preached by New York's Marxist Mayor Mamdani and Bernie Sanders, threatens the future of the United States. He concludes by encouraging listeners to turn to the Healing Wheel Society to find hope in perilous times.

Savage uses ancient Greek coins and Oswald Spengler's The Decline of the West to frame a discussion of declining civilizations and the rise of socialism. He calls socialism a "castle in the air" that promises free goods but historically delivers failure, citing Cuba, the Soviet Union, and Mao's China. He argues socialism's appeal is fueled by abuses and self-dealing among elites in both parties, high taxation, and a broader Western "winter phase" marked by megacities, rule by money, media manipulation, cultural sterility, and impending "Caesarism." He links recent Muslim electoral wins in New York and Michigan to backlash against Israel's actions in Gaza after October 7 and criticizes Netanyahu's long rule as corrupting. He contrasts envy-driven aspiration with hate-based redistribution, urges hard work and self-reliance, and promotes his podcast archive and past work.

Savage discusses political despair and media distractions. He cites a website poll with over 20 million votes urging him to quit radio and run for president as an independent if he can raise $50 million, proposing a platform of "borders, language, culture," including militarizing borders, making English mandatory, and restricting voting. He asks callers to role-play hostile media questions and responds combatively on topics including immigration, Islam and Iran, global warming, the Bible and church-state issues. He discusses his book "Healing Children Naturally" and argues that schools are "banning boyhood."

Savage and Jeff Rovin discuss the decline of New York City under socialist Mayor Mamdani. Rovin shares about his decision to leave Manhattan in 2019 after sensing a need to get out of the city.  They discuss New York City's deterioration, including rising housing costs, changing politics, and the departure of affluent residents and businesses. They argue that younger generations too often blame older Americans for housing affordability instead of embracing the sacrifices they say were necessary in their own lives. They criticize New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani, expressing concern about his policies, his views on Israel, and the direction the city is heading. Ultimately, higher taxes on wealthy residents will accelerate migration to states like Florida and Texas. Savage and Rovin conclude looking ahead to the midterm elections; will socialist candidates dominate the polls?