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Drewski, a former law enforcement officer and five-year SWAT veteran who now hosts the Cryptid Warfare podcast, breaks down his years running a cryptid research and investigation team through the mountains of Tennessee and Alabama, hunting Bigfoot, Dogman, and whatever else is actually out there. Drewski traces his path from a childhood spent in the library reading about Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster to a 2011 SWAT manhunt in the Colorado Rockies, where his team heard something pacing them on two legs that even his captain ordered scrubbed from the official report. The conversation moves through a 2015 sponsored Bigfoot expedition in Mammoth Cave where infrasound nearly dropped him to the ground and thermal cameras caught an eight-foot creature running up a mountainside, a tense night in eastern Tennessee where his team fired warning shots at a tree as unseen creatures circled their camp, and a cave investigation tied to a local legend of three rogue mountain witches. Drewski also details a deafening, unexplained roar that hovered directly over his camp in Alabama's Bankhead National Forest for five full minutes, and lays out his theory that Bigfoot, Dogman, and similar cryptids fall into three categories: physical and government-made, spiritual, or interdimensional. He closes with hard-earned safety advice for anyone getting into cryptid research themselves.

In This Episode
•      Drewski, a former law enforcement officer who spent seven years on the job and five of those on SWAT, now hosts the Cryptid Warfare podcast and runs a cryptid research and investigation team. His interest started in the library as a kid reading about Bigfoot, Mothman, and the Loch Ness Monster, long before a career in law enforcement put him back in the field.  
•      The turning point came around 2011, when Drewski's SWAT team was sent into the Colorado Rockies on a manhunt for an escaped convict. Moving up the mountain in formation, Drewski and another teammate both reported hearing something pacing them on two legs on opposite sides of the group, a sound distinct from any four legged animal. When the team stopped moving, whatever it was stopped too, taking two audible extra steps before going silent, and their captain later ordered the detail scrubbed from the official incident report entirely.  
•      A friend from the area later told Drewski what locals called it: a wood booger, regional slang for a Sasquatch type creature. The encounter and the word sent Drewski back into research, and by 2016 he and a friend had launched Cryptid Warfare as a podcast, built around their shared interest in cryptids and the biblical narrative around fallen angels. After a hiatus for scheduling and family reasons, Drewski relaunched it around 2019 and has run it since, describing it now as a judgment free space for people to share their experiences.  
•      In 2015, Drewski joined a sponsored Bigfoot expedition in Mammoth Cave National Park in Tennessee as security for a group of researchers and journalists. Driving back to camp around 3 a.m., the group found an abandoned vehicle with its doors open and belongings scattered on the ground. While checking the vehicle, Drewski felt a deep, guttural growl as physical pressure, like standing against a concert subwoofer, and nearly passed out. Infrared footage caught a roughly eight foot, five and a half foot wide creature sprinting up the mountainside, and park rangers shut the area down the next morning as a crime scene, citing people who had gone missing nearby.  
•      Years later, Drewski's team responded to a woman in Mountain City, Tennessee who reported homeless people going missing near her property, along with mutilated animals, including a half-eaten goat and a calf thrown into a tree. After months of preparation, three members of the team camped near her land with perimeter trip alarms set around the site. Overnight, the alarms went off on all sides in sequence, pebbles were thrown at the campers, and one teammate became physically ill after hearing a close growl, a reaction Drewski attributes to infrasound.  
•      As the activity intensified, Drewski fired several warning shots into a tree to scare off whatever was circling the camp, aiming at a solid backstop rather than into the open woods. The next morning, the team followed broken branches and a wide, trampled path up the mountain to the Appalachian Trail before it disappeared. They told local law enforcement and the homeowner that the area showed strong signs of cryptid activity, and recommended she treat her property with anointing oil and cayenne pepper to help deter it.  
•      Separately, Drewski's team investigated a property near a cave in Tennessee after a resident left a tobacco offering at its entrance and, according to Drewski, inadvertently opened something up. The homeowners reported their cabin being shaken and clawed, cameras being physically turned, and chickens being killed, while a neighbor who saw repeated six to seven foot shadow figures moved out entirely. Local research tied the area to a legend of three rogue mountain witches sealed inside the cave centuries earlier. Exploring the cave themselves, Drewski's team found bones, strange carvings, and a shadow figure that ducked around a corner, confirmed by multiple team members, before they chose to back out rather than corner whatever it was.  
•      In Alabama's Bankhead National Forest, widely known for Dogman reports, Drewski's team camped overnight with cryptid researcher Jessica Jones after hearing secondhand accounts of growls coming from very different heights, including from up in a tree. On a later trip to the same area, Drewski and a teammate were the only two awake around 2:45 a.m. when an intensely loud, jet engine like roar seemed to hover directly overhead for about five minutes before cutting off instantly, a sound the rest of the sleeping team never heard. The next day the group found juvenile sized footprints, seven to eight inches long, near their camp.  
•      Drewski breaks down what he believes these creatures actually are, sorting his years of field experience into three overlapping categories: physical and government engineered, spiritual, or interdimensional. He ties the physical theory to secret research programs and Genesis six, the interdimensional theory to hollow earth and portal concepts, and the spiritual theory to accounts from former Satanists who describe using entities like Dogman as protectors or weapons. He also connects the phenomenon to biblical end times prophecy, specifically Luke 21:11 and Revelation 6:8.  
•      Drewski closes with practical advice for anyone getting into cryptid research themselves: never go out with fewer than five people, train extensively with your gear before you need it, tell someone exactly where you are going and when you will be back, and do as much research as possible before setting foot in the field.  

Best Line of the Night "They're spiritual, they're government-made, or they're interdimensional." Drewski, on the three categories he puts every cryptid encounter into.

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Codex Origins re-release: UFO researcher, journalist, and author Cheryl Costa goes through 20 years of UFO sighting data, 167,632 reports from 2001 to 2020, broken down by state, county, and ZIP code. Cheryl explains which ZIP code leads the country (85001 in downtown Phoenix), why Los Angeles County ranks number one overall, why most UFO sightings are reported between 6 and 11 pm, and why she believes only about 1 in 257 people actually report what they see. She also lays out the five drivers behind where sightings happen, from population to broadband access, plus the influencers she ties to bodies of water, geological faults, and toxic waste sites. Cheryl is the author of the UFO Sightings Desk Reference books with co-author Linda Miller Costa, a former UFO columnist for the Syracuse New Times, and spent 32 years at Lockheed Martin. In this conversation she also covers a 17-page report she sent to a congressman’s office, a CIA scientific division paper from around 1950 that already spotted the summer pattern, and her own theory on how visitors might actually get here. This is a Codex Origins episode, an early conversation from the Codega’s Codex of Curiosities vault, back with remastered audio. New Codex Origins episodes land every Sunday.

In This Episode
•           Cheryl says she has talked to about 150 major newspapers in the country and none would publish her sighting numbers, because they told her it would scare everybody. She talks about her first book, the UFO Sightings Desk Reference: United States of America 2001-2015, and the New York Times story that ran on April 24 and 25, 2017. She also tells how she flunked geometry in high school, then taught herself algebra and trig in her late 20s after making a mistake balancing her checkbook, and ended up publishing a book of statistics.
•           Cheryl walks through a CIA scientific division paper from around 1950 that plotted about 130 sightings by month and wrote “summer madness” in the margins. Her own data, with far more points, shows the same peak in the northern states in June, July, and August, a flat line in the Deep South with a dip in the summer heat, and February as the worst month in the country. She also covers April 16, 2008, when Indiana logged 25 sightings in one day against its usual three or four a week, the Kokomo lights clusters, and a Texas spike across about 12 communities that never got press.
•           The pink book covers 2001 to 2020, weighs two and a half pounds, and ranks all 50 states down to the county level. Cheryl explains why it is bright fuchsia (so you can spot it from an aircraft, and because two women published it), who asked her to testify in Washington in 2019, and the congressional hearings push tied to a spending bill. She says she sent a 17-page technical report to a congressman’s office and has heard nothing but silence since, and that she may end up testifying before Congress. The book is dedicated to Coral Lorenzen, whose group APRO came before MUFON.
•           Downtown Phoenix, ZIP code 85001, is the number one ZIP code in the country for UFO reports in the 20-year period, with 1,500 more sightings than the next closest ZIP code. Maricopa County ranks second among counties, and Los Angeles County ranks first, even though downtown Los Angeles itself only ranks around number 25. Cheryl also explains why TV producers keep asking her for a hot spot where they can park camera crews on a rooftop and wait, and why it is not that easy.
•           Cheryl names the drivers behind sighting numbers in every state: population, temperate weather, leisure time, hours of darkness, and an observer’s access to broadband. About 70% of sightings happen between 6 and 11 pm, and about 60% of those fall between 8:30 and 10:30 at night. Of roughly 3,530 counties, 105 reported no UFOs at all in the 20 years, and she says mostly rural farming states lack the broadband that makes reporting easy. North and South Dakota rank 49th and 50th.
•           Then come the influencers, which only some places have. Cheryl says states touching the Great Lakes logged thousands of sightings, and that Florida’s 1,200 miles of coastline against Texas at about 450 explains a lot. Her colleague Tom Conwell pinned sightings on a giant wall map and found they seem to cluster around Superfund toxic waste sites. She also points to geological faults, calderas, and volcanoes, South Carolina earthquakes lining up with the state’s top sighting counties, military sites with nuclear weapons technology, the Navy fleet, high media coverage that sparks more reports, and the generational effect, where grandparents’ stories of the Battle of Los Angeles or the Phoenix Lights send families outside to look up.
•           Cheryl explains how she and Linda built all 50 state editions, each titled UFOs in (State) and Where to Find Them. They published them in about six weeks between Halloween and the winter solstice, starting with Ohio, and color coded each cover by census region: powder blue for the Northeast, orange for the lower South, green for the Midwest, and purple for the West. She credits a college course in methods engineering for helping her organize the work.
•           Cheryl runs the big numbers: 167,632 reports from 2001 to 2020 works out to about 8,400 a year, 700 a month, 161 a week, and 23 a day. She then asks what happens if you throw most of them away. If only 30% are real, that is about 210 a month. If 1% are real, it is still around seven a month. Her own swag is about 5%. She also explains how she and Linda estimated that only about 1 in 257 people report what they see, which lands near 43 million, and how that lines up with the Gallup figure of 16.74% of adult Americans saying they have seen a UFO.
•           Cheryl gives her own take on how visitors could get here, pointing to recent work coming out of the CERN laboratories that she says could mean a 20 minute trip into the fifth dimensional bulk covering a 50,000 year journey. She talks about interdimensional travel, whether the UFO flurry that began after the 1945 nuclear tests came from outer space or inner space, and why she thinks the hidden material sits under atomic energy rules that never expire.
•           Cheryl shares her own history with the subject: seeing her first UFO at about age 12 in 1965 with her parents in upstate New York, a sighting on Christmas Eve 1971 at Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam, and her service in the military. She tells how a government review of her security clearance played out after she publicly came out as transgender, and how she answered it. She says she has been an experiencer since around age five or six, that things still move around her home, and that she no longer sees it as the negative experience she once did. She also covers her seven years writing the New York Skies column, which ran 238 articles, and her move to the Roswell Daily Record in 2023.

Best Line of the Night
“Don’t you think it’s press worthy that we’ve got 210 starships a month, every month for the last 240 months, coming to the United States?”
(Cheryl Costa, on what happens if just 30% of the reported sightings are real)

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The divine council worldview, the Book of Enoch, and the Elohim of the ancient Near East get a full walkthrough from Jeff, a former youth minister and college minister who spent 13 years in ministry before building a toy company around what he'd learned. Jeff traces his journey from a high school student's request for a study on angels and demons, to two weeks of searching through Jewish, Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Muslim traditions, to discovering Dr. Michael Heiser and The Unseen Realm. He breaks down Psalm 82, where God takes his place in the divine council and Elohim singular stands among Elohim plural, why Yahweh is "species unique," and why Baal, Zeus, Thor, and other gods look like the same figures rebranded across cultures. The conversation moves through Enoch, the eyewitness narrator of the story Jeff is writing and the figure later Christian tradition knows as Metatron, the scholar of heaven, then through the opening chapters of Genesis, including who Cain was afraid of and why Jeff reads Genesis as epic poetry. Jeff also shares the Chronicles of the Elohim action figures from Kaleo Legends, including Enoch, Yeshua, Mikha'el, Sama'el, and Azra'el, the glorified body design behind them, the 42 more figures he has planned, and the pre-Adam war among the Elohim that his story is built around.

In This Episode
•      Jeff spent 13 years as a youth minister and college minister, after a career as a concept artist and character designer in the game industry. When he left ministry he went back to art and took a prototyping job at Mezco, a job he loved, until he realized none of the toys they were making carried any real value for him. The toy he wanted to make didn't exist, and he had learned enough about the process to start his own company.  
•      The divine council started for Jeff with one of his best high school students, who walked into his office and asked for a study on angels and demons because nobody wanted to talk about them in depth. Jeff wasn't sure there was enough in the Bible to fill a month of lessons, so he asked for time and spent two weeks searching through ancient Jewish tradition, Catholic and Eastern Orthodox sources, and some Muslim traditions.  
•      He then found a podcast hosted by a Messianic Jew, where the guest was Dr. Michael Heiser. Jeff remembers thinking Heiser was either insane or onto something core he had never seen before. He spent the next couple of weeks buying The Unseen Realm and Heiser's angels and demons book, binging the Naked Bible podcast, and deciding that Heiser's understanding of ancient Hebrew, and of reading the text with the ancient Israelite in mind, was legitimate. He had grown up in the church, walked away for a while, and found that everything was the same when he came back. If there was a deeper layer, he wanted to know what it was, so he started studying Hebrew and teaching divine council worldview material at the church where he worked.  
•      Jeff gives a short version of the divine council worldview. In Psalm 82, God takes his place in the divine council and renders judgment among the gods, which puts Elohim singular in the presence of Elohim plural. That was a big problem for the monotheistic worldview, and Jeff says he is still monotheistic. In his view Yahweh sits at the head of the council and asks lesser Elohim to assist in creation, and while Yahweh is Elohim too, there are no Elohim like him. He is "species unique," and the Bible strips the lesser gods of his attributes, with some staying loyal and others rebelling, just like humanity.  
•      Jeff points to the creation account, where God says "let us make them in our image" and then the very next verse has God alone creating. The traditional church says that's the Trinity, but Jeff says that doesn't fit what Moses would have believed, who held what he calls the two Yahweh point of view, an ancient Jewish idea. He adds that Job describes the divine council present at the foundation of creation, singing and celebrating with God, which means the Elohim were created before the physical world. They aren't eternal like Yahweh, but they've been here since the opening days of creation.  
•      Rye asks whether the Elohim could be read as the gods of other pantheons. Jeff says yes, and uses Baal, the storm god tied to thunder and lightning, as the best example, then points out that Zeus and Thor fill the same role in other cultures. He believes these gods have been around a very long time and rebrand every century or so, resetting under new names once people figure out who they are and stop worshiping them. Jeff stresses that he's saying "likely," and expects a scholar somewhere may email him about it. Rye adds Anubis, the dog-headed guide to the underworld, plus Aztec and Mayan examples, and the idea that each of these gods may rule over an area with lesser gods under it.  
•      When Jeff and his team started designing characters around the divine council, they wanted the story told as an eyewitness testimony, like a biblical narrative. Enoch was the natural choice to be that eyewitness and co-host of the first story. In later Christian tradition Enoch becomes Metatron, the scholar of heaven, who observes all things and takes notes. Enoch and Yeshua are the two central protagonists, joined by Michael, Sama'el, and Azra'el. Sama'el is the antagonist who in later Jewish tradition is the serpent in the garden, the nahash, and Azra'el keeps the watchers and rebellious Elohim in Sheol and the abyss below it. Jeff uses the Hebrew names on purpose and admits some people won't know how to pronounce them.  
•      The story Jeff wants to tell first goes back before Adam, to the first several days of creation when the Creator makes the Elohim for a purpose. He wants to show what those Elohim were doing before humanity, and what a rebellion looks like when it's only gods fighting, some loyal to the one true God and some not. He is writing that story alongside the figures. He describes it as inspired by ancient Near East mythologies, drawing on ancient Judaism, Mesopotamia, Christianity, and Egypt, and says the percentages are flipped from Narnia or Lord of the Rings: about 85% biblical mythology with 15 to 20% fantasy wrapped around it. It is not a story to teach in Sunday school, he says, but one to enjoy.  
•      Jeff reads Genesis as epic poetry rather than eyewitness testimony, because Moses wrote it after the Exodus. That means there is a tremendous amount going on in the opening chapters that nobody has any way of knowing. He asks how long Adam and Eve were in the garden, and then asks about Cain, who after killing Abel says someone will kill him. Cain is one of the first six people the Bible tells us about, so who are the other people? Jeff's take is that it's possible God made more people but found favor with Adam, the same way he found favor with Noah, Moses, and Abraham and Sarah. Rye adds that he's heard Adam and Eve had many more children than Cain and Abel.  
•      The first five figures in the Chronicles of the Elohim line are Enoch, Yeshua, Michael, Sama'el, and Azra'el, with 42 more planned. Jeff built the design on Paul's idea of glorified bodies. A body that doesn't age or get hungry is close to immortal, so he made the armor the body itself, a second skin that flexes like the Winter Soldier's arm, which can be damaged but also replaced and repaired. The figures stand about seven to seven and a half inches tall. Next up are giants at 10 inches, with Gilgamesh the one Jeff most wants to make, then Valkyries, Egyptian and Greek gods with an elongated twist, and a Seraphim design that could be the most expensive toy he has ever worked on.  
•      The company name Kaleo is a Greek word meaning to be called or summoned by your god or gods, which fit how Jeff felt leaving Mezco. He started the company with his brother years ago, planning video games, and a trademark dispute with a company in China forced a rename, so he asked his brother if he was using Kaleo and took it. Jeff says there are no Christian toy companies making anything for older audiences beyond toddler figures, and that Tolkien and C.S. Lewis inspired him because they were bold enough to put their faith into a fantasy narrative. The balance is hard, because catering to Christians risks losing secular collectors and the reverse. The first five figures are up for pre-order at kaleolegends.toys to help finish production.  

Best Line of the Night "These gods have been around for a very, very long time, they just rebrand every century or however long." Jeff, on why the same kinds of gods keep showing up in different pantheons.
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Ryan, host of The Ryan Files and a 30 year professional Elvis entertainer based in Branson, joins the show to break down his theory that Nephilim bloodlines and traits may still be present in people today. Ryan explains how a personal expedition to Peru, exploring sites like Sacsayhuaman and Machu Picchu, pushed him to start his own podcast digging into ancient history, giants, and the Book of Enoch. The conversation covers the Genesis 6 account of the Watchers and their offspring, a theory that demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim seeking bodies to inhabit, and a striking pattern linking RH negative blood, taller stature, red hair, and green or blue eyes to reported modern day alien abduction targets, traits Ryan shares himself. Ryan also discusses deep underground military bases and the missing 21 trillion dollars reported by Catherine Austin Fitts as part of a larger picture he believes is being prepared behind the scenes. Ryan hosts The Ryan Files, where he's interviewed researchers including Gary Wayne, Timothy Alberino, and Dr. Michael Lake.

In This Episode
•      Ryan hosts The Ryan Files and spent 30 years as a professional entertainer, including performing as an Elvis impersonator, before COVID era soul searching pulled him back toward his Christian upbringing and eventually into ancient history research. He still performs seven shows a week out of Branson while running the podcast on the side.  
•      The turning point came during a personal expedition to Peru, where Ryan explored sites like Sacsayhuaman, Machu Picchu, and several glacial and archaeological locations, and found himself unable to shake the question of how these structures were actually built and what that means for accepted ancient history. That trip, paired with a persistent feeling he describes as a nudge from God, eventually pushed him into starting his own show despite his initial reluctance.  
•      Ryan frames the Bible as, in his view, the most accurate history book ever written, arguing that the Genesis 6 account of angelic Watchers descending on Mount Hermon and producing offspring with human women describes a real physical conflict, not just a spiritual one. He credits conversations with researchers like Gary Wayne with reshaping how seriously he takes this material.  
•      The conversation turns to a theory Ryan holds firmly: that demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim killed off after the flood, described in the Book of Enoch as spiritual orphans, neither fully human nor fully angelic, left to roam the earth and actively seeking bodies to inhabit, a pattern he connects to New Testament accounts like the demon Legion casting itself into a herd of pigs.  
•      Ryan raises an uncomfortable theological question along the way: if the Nephilim were part angelic and part human, were they ever actually redeemable through Christ's sacrifice, which was made for humanity specifically. He doesn't claim a definitive answer, but uses the question to frame a broader theory about a spiritual army being assembled for something still to come.  
•      That theory extends into modern day alien abduction reports, where Ryan points out a recurring physical profile among reported abductees: RH negative blood, taller than average height, fair skin, and red, blonde, green, or blue coloring, traits he shares himself as someone with RH negative blood, red hair, green eyes, and a height over six feet. He floats the idea of a deliberate breeding program aimed at maximizing a lingering angelic bloodline in the general population.  
•      Ryan also touches on deep underground military bases, high speed rail systems connecting them, and the reported 21 trillion dollars in unaccounted government spending raised by Catherine Austin Fitts, tying it all into his broader belief that something is being prepared behind the scenes ahead of major events described in scripture.  
•      Ryan wraps up by directing listeners to The Ryan Files on YouTube, where a start here playlist includes his conversations with Jamie Walden, Timothy Alberino, Dr. Michael Lake, Derek Gilbert, and Gary Wayne as a good entry point into the show.  

Best Line of the Night
"Demons need bodies."
Ryan, laying out the core of his theory on what demons actually are.

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Researcher George Haas, founder of the Cydonia Institute, breaks down over 30 years of studying NASA and ESA imagery of Mars, arguing the planet holds evidence of an advanced, ancient civilization wiped out by nuclear war. George walks through the decades-long controversy surrounding the Face on Mars, first photographed in 1976 and re-imaged by NASA in 1996, and details astrophysicist Dr. John Brandenburg's research into Xenon 129, a chemical signature for nuclear explosions detected in Mars's atmosphere since the Viking missions, pointing to two suspected blast sites roughly a million years old. The conversation covers a remote viewer's decades-old account of pyramids and tall, elongated-headed beings on Mars, comparisons between structures found on both the Moon and Mars, and a detailed formation nicknamed the Parrot, backed by published science papers citing 22 points of anatomical accuracy. George co-authored the Cydonia Codex and the Martian Codex, and his current book, The Great Architects of Mars: Evidence for the Lost Civilization of the Red Planet, is available now.

In This Episode
•      George Haas spent the 1980s as a working sculptor showing pieces in New York and New Jersey galleries before a single NASA press conference redirected his entire career. He graduated high school in 1976, the same year NASA's Viking mission photographed a mesa formation in the Cydonia region of Mars that bore an unmistakable resemblance to a face, and George has spent the decades since studying that formation and the wider Martian surface in extraordinary detail.  
•      George walks through the twenty year gap between the original 1976 Viking photo and NASA's 1996 re-imaging with the Mars Global Surveyor, describing the second image as a public letdown since it was released unprocessed, fueling a controversy he covered in his first book with co-author William Saunders. That renewed public interest is what pulled George fully into Mars research, eventually leading him to found the Cydonia Institute in 1991.  
•      The conversation moves into the research of Dr. John Brandenburg, an astrophysicist who has published multiple papers and books on Xenon 129, a chemical isotope recognized as a telltale signature of nuclear explosions since America's own nuclear testing in the 1940s. George explains that NASA's own atmospheric instruments, carried aboard Mariner 9, the Viking landers, and the Mars Global Surveyor, have consistently detected unusually high levels of Xenon 129 in the Martian atmosphere, which Brandenburg's research ties to two above ground nuclear blasts, one over the Cydonia region and another over the Utopia region, roughly a million years ago.  
•      George brings up a separate account from a well known remote viewer who, decades before more recent ancient astronaut theories became popular, described seeing pyramids on Mars and tall, elongated headed beings during a session, along with references to a conflict involving a mysterious sixth planet.  
•      He draws a broader parallel to how ancient cultures like the Sumerians, credited with founding mathematics and the sciences later inherited across the region, are taken seriously for their technical achievements while their own writings about the Anunnaki are dismissed outright as myth, arguing that selective belief doesn't hold up.  
•      George spends time comparing specific formations he's identified on both the Moon and Mars, arguing certain structures share enough similarity across both bodies that they're unlikely to be coincidental or purely the product of erosion and lighting.  
•      One of the more detailed formations George covers is nicknamed the Parrot, located in an area he calls the RG Basin, theorized to have once been a port city beside a body of water. George says the formation has been independently reviewed by veterinarians and covered in two published science papers citing 22 separate points of anatomical correctness, far beyond what he'd expect from simple pareidolia, since cloud-like silhouettes typically lack secondary details like eyes, joints, or toes.  
•      George closes out directing listeners to the Cydonia Institute, where all of his and his colleagues' peer-reviewed science papers are available to read for free, alongside videos and further research. His current book, The Great Architects of Mars: Evidence for the Lost Civilization of the Red Planet, is available through Bear and Company, a Simon and Schuster imprint, with a Kindle edition that includes embedded high resolution images of the formations discussed.  

Best Line of the Night "Since Viking, they've known something happened on Mars. What, a nuclear war? The government has known this."
George, on what NASA's own atmospheric data has quietly shown for decades.

Guest Can Be Found
George's research, science papers, and videos are all available for free through the Cydonia Institute.
Website: https://thecydoniainstitute.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/george.john.haas
BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Architects-Mars-Evidence-Civilizations-ebook/dp/B0D4MFGJ3X

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