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• Zero Trust principles and AI agents with George Finney

  In this episode, Jaye and John engage with George Finney to explore the intersection of Zero Trust principles and AI agents. They discuss the challenges and opportunities presented by AI in cybersecurity, emphasizing the importance of identity management, governance, and the role of humans in overseeing AI systems. The conversation also touches on the future of AI, the necessity of pre-mortems in project planning, and the need for continuous education in cybersecurity. George shares insights from his experience as a CISO and offers advice for leaders navigating the evolving landscape of digital security. Key Takeaways: • AI agents pose significant security challenges. • Zero Trust principles must adapt to include AI. • Identity management is crucial for both humans and AI. • Governance structures are needed for AI oversight. • Investing in people is key to a secure future. • Pre-mortems can help identify potential AI risks. • Human involvement is essential in critical AI decisions. • AI's blending of control and data planes raises security concerns. • Continuous education in cybersecurity is vital for all staff. • The future of AI in cybersecurity is uncertain but requires critical thinking. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

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• Networking & Security Over Whiskey with Jennifer (JJ) Minella

  In this episode, the No Trust team speaks with Jennifer Minella about her extensive experience in technology, particularly in wireless security and networking. They discuss the challenges of maintaining security in wireless networks, the evolution of networking technologies, and the complexities of implementing Network Access Control (NAC) in a hybrid work environment. The conversation also touches on the future of Zero Trust architecture, the importance of unique device identity, and the challenges posed by IoT and OT devices. The episode concludes with a light-hearted discussion about whiskey. • Jennifer Minella has over 30 years of experience in technology, focusing on infrastructure and security. • Wireless security protocols have not significantly changed in over 20 years, posing challenges for security professionals. • The majority of Wi-Fi technology is consumer-based, complicating enterprise security efforts. • Understanding the basics of networking is crucial for entering the cybersecurity field today. • NAC implementations are often challenging and can lead to significant operational disruptions. • Zero Trust architecture requires a shift in how organizations approach network security, especially with remote work. • Unique device identity is essential for effective security in IoT and OT environments. • The complexity of modern networks makes it difficult to manage security policies effectively. • The rise of ransomware attacks on IoT devices highlights the need for better security measures. • Whiskey culture provides a fun and engaging way to connect with others in the tech industry. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

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• The Godfather of Zero Trust with John Kindervag

  In this episode of the No Trust Podcast, hosts Jaye Tillson and John Spiegel sit down with John Kindervag, the creator of Zero Trust, to uncover the story behind one of cybersecurity’s most transformative frameworks. Kindervag shares how Zero Trust has gained traction over the past 15 years, the cultural resistance that slowed its adoption, and how organizations can finally break through inertia by starting small and focusing on protecting what matters most. From the boardroom to the SOC, this conversation dismantles the myth that Zero Trust is “all or nothing” and reframes it as a business-driven strategy with measurable outcomes, including reduced operational costs and fewer breaches. Along the way, Kindervag reveals why the C-suite often understands Zero Trust better than technical teams, how misaligned incentives inside organizations hold security back, and why networking at conferences is still one of the best ways to drive change. Whether you’re a CISO, security architect, or business leader, this episode will challenge your assumptions and leave you with a clear, practical path toward Zero Trust. • John Kindervag is the creator of Zero Trust. • Zero Trust took 15 years to gain traction due to resistance to change. • Organizations should start small and protect specific assets. • Cybersecurity must evolve beyond traditional perimeter defenses. • Zero Trust is about protecting sensitive data, not just technology. • Incentives in organizations often hinder the adoption of new security models. • Zero Trust can lead to reduced operational costs and fewer data breaches. • The C-suite often understands Zero Trust better than technical teams. • Conferences provide valuable networking opportunities and insights. • The focus should be on business outcomes, not just technology. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/ Takeaways • Identity is the heart of zero trust. • Most breaches occur due to weak passwords. • Identity is the key to the perimeter. • Assuming trust can lead to vulnerabilities. • Zero trust is a continuous journey. • Organizations need visibility into their identity landscape. • AI can assist in analyzing identity-related data. • Non-human identities are a growing concern. • MFA is essential but not the only solution. • The future of identity management will involve AI. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

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• From Theory to Practice: The Zero Trust Journey - Episode 2, with John Kindervag and Dr Chase Cunningham

  From Theory to Practice: The Zero Trust Journey - Episode 2, with John Kindervag and Dr Chase Cunningham by "No Trust" by Zero Trust Forum

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• Surviving the Ransomware Threat with Art Ocain

  In this conversation, Art Ocain discusses the current landscape of cybersecurity threats with the No Trust crew, particularly focusing on ransomware attacks. They explore how attackers gain access to systems, the importance of multi-factor authentication, and the vulnerabilities of small and medium-sized businesses. The conversation delves into immediate actions organizations should take during a ransomware attack, the balance between recovery and forensic investigation, and the critical role of communication during incidents. They also address the ethical dilemma of paying ransoms and share lessons learned from past incidents, emphasizing the need for ongoing security improvements and preparedness for future threats. Takeaways • VPN is currently the main vector for attacks • Small and medium businesses are often less prepared for attacks • Many companies still lack MFA on their VPNs • Organizations often believe they are immune to attacks until it's too late • Hypervisors are a primary target for ransomware attacks • Minimizing the attack surface is crucial for security • Isolating from the internet is a key first step during an attack • The decision to pay ransom is complex and often driven by immediate business needs • A full forensic investigation is essential after an attack • Ransomware trends continue to evolve and are not declining Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/ Takeaways • Identity is the heart of zero trust. • Most breaches occur due to weak passwords. • Identity is the key to the perimeter. • Assuming trust can lead to vulnerabilities. • Zero trust is a continuous journey. • Organizations need visibility into their identity landscape. • AI can assist in analyzing identity-related data. • Non-human identities are a growing concern. • MFA is essential but not the only solution. • The future of identity management will involve AI. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. link.chtbl.com/XIW5zsAn What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

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