Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now s...
#81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes?
Meta is ditching fact-checkers, Nvidia hitting $3T, and everyone is building robots for some reason. Episode # 81 of More or Less kicks off 2025 by asking:
• How much of Zuck's community notes pivot is political theater?
• Can NVIDIA actually pull off this "mega omniverse" industrial AI play?
• Will companies thrive as the great tech exodus accelerates?
Plus: Sam explains why centralized moderation was always destined to fail (backed by that wild 30% spike in misinfo post-fact-checking), Dave remains unimpressed by CES's 170,000-person gadget circus, and Brit introduces us to Generation Beta -- the first true AI natives.
Bonus round: Is 2025 the year Texas tech finally takes the crown?
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(00:00) Trailer
(01:50) Introduction
(03:02) CES, NVIDIA, Generation Beta
(10:00) Breaking down Zuck’s announcement
(25:22) What could go wrong?
(38:34) Los Angeles
(40:46) Robots
(44:01) Pop Culture Corner
(47:50) Outro
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#80: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 2 (Crypto and Antitrust)
Time for Part 2 of our More or Less highlights special! We've curated some clips to check off our tech bingo card for 2024.
This past year gave us Trump swapping press rooms for podcasts, the DOJ taking swings at Big Tech, BlackRock's Bitcoin ETF hitting record highs ($50B AUM) and—because why not—a government department named after DOGE, a not so subtle nod to Trump's pro-crypto stance.
What's in store for 2025?
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(0:00) Intro
(1:13) Mar 29, 2024 | Apple v. DOJ
(8:53) Aug 9, 2024 | Google Antitrust Decision
(14:08) Oct 11, 2024 | Google's Potential Breakup
(26:46) Jun 12, 2023 | Crypto and the SEC
(35:27) Dec 8, 2023 | Crypto bounces back
(46:30) Nov 15, 2024 | D.O.G.E.
(01:03:16) Dec 6, 2024 | Trump and Web3
(01:10:56) Outro
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#79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights)
Welcome to Part 1 of the More or Less highlights special! We’re taking a look back at an action-packed year in AI, from groundbreaking developments to game-changing predictions about the future. Don’t miss this collection of standout moments and stay tuned for Part 2!
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(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:00:54) SEGMENT 1: OpenAI Developer Day, Altman firing
(00:01:08) OpenAI Developer Day and GPTs
(00:15:22) CEO Sam Altman was fired
(00:35:27) SEGMENT 2: Apple + OpenAI, LLMs Business Realities
(00:35:42) Apple Intelligence
(00:51:51) SEGMENT 3: Agentic Predictions, Adoption, Business Models
(00:52:23) OpenAI's Mega Funding Round
(01:08:39) Agentic future and Building software through AI
(01:24:25) Silicon Valley Hype Waves, Tech Infrastructure and Great Products
(01:40:11) Outro
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1:40:40
#78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions
In this episode, the Morins & Lessins dive into the highs and lows of 2024 to uncover who came out on top.
Google made a strong showing, but are they well-positioned for the long haul? Waymo keeps moving the needle with self-driving cars and big moves in AI, making it a strong contender for years to come.
Apple? They’ve been a bit slow to innovate this year, but don’t count them out just yet. Meta really hit their stride in 2024, proving the naysayers wrong. AI? Check. Hardware? Check. Will they keep the momentum going?
Let’s get into it.
In this episode, the Morins & Lessins dive into the highs and lows of 2024 to uncover who came out on top.
Google made a strong showing, but are they well-positioned for the long haul? Waymo keeps moving the needle with self-driving cars and big moves in AI, making it a strong contender for years to come.
Apple? They’ve been a bit slow to innovate this year, but don’t count them out just yet. Meta really hit their stride in 2024, proving the naysayers wrong. AI? Check. Hardware? Check. Will they keep the momentum going?
Let’s get into it.
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(00:00:00) Trailer + Introduction
(00:01:46) God bless capitalism
(00:04:08) A+ love story, 3-hour marathon
(00:07:32) 2024 Tech Outlook
(00:09:50) Why AI was transformative
(00:13:21) A major year for tech?
(00:17:55) A remarkable year for VC
(00:31:51) Waymo
(00:35:35) The company of the year
(00:53:29) 2025 Predictions
(01:03:20) Food, health, pop culture, sports
(01:08:15) Outro
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#77: Sora Reveal, Google's AI Agents and Digital Trade Under Trump
How will OpenAI's latest video technology affect the creator ecosystem? Could this new tech pave the way for a new type of entertainment?
Also in this episode ↓
- Does Google have a lead in the AI race?
- Should digital trade play a larger role in policy discussions?
- The End of the Eras Tour and Sam's Pink Pilates Princess Strut Pop Season
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00:00 Trailer
01:24 Introduction
02:04 The Eras Tour
06:56 AI, TikTok, and Arrests
07:31 AI Video Debate
10:28 Creator Economy and AI Tools
16:10 Trust and Attention in Creator Businesses
19:24 Digital Drugs and AI Content
22:13 Spotify Wrapped and Music Trends
27:54 AI Agents
35:04 The Death of the Open Web?
39:42 Policy, Big Tech, and Digital Trade
48:29 Reflecting on Leadership in Media and Policy
52:18 Amazon Autos and Miata Chronicles
55:01 Outro
Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures.
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