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Emma Grace Hurley joins the podcast after the race of her life: a 66:23 half marathon PB at the World Road Running Championships in Copenhagen, good for fifth place and a historic team silver medal for the US women. She breaks down her race strategy, the chaotic Atlanta trials where she was led off course in the final mile, and why she chose the half marathon over the 5K.

With her Chicago Marathon debut just two and a half weeks away, Hurley opens up about her sub-2:20 fitness, carb fueling strategy with Never Second, and the unconventional path that took her from an unremarkable college career at Furman, where she never qualified for NCAAs in track, to becoming the #3 American half marathoner of all time.

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00:00 Welcome & Copenhagen World Half Marathon Recap

04:42 Chasing A Medal & Team Silver In Copenhagen

08:56 The Atlanta Trials Controversy & Road To Copenhagen

14:11 Balancing Copenhagen & Chicago Marathon Buildup

17:16 Time Goals & The Sub-2:20 Question

21:33 Marathon Training Surprises & Carb Fueling

28:11 From Furman To IT Job To Pro Running

34:04 Finding Her Niche On The Roads

37:00 Following Coaches To Indianapolis & ASICS Origin Story

42:29 Laid Off & Going Full-Time Pro

46:01 Consistency, Daily Routine & Sleep Habits

51:55 Mileage Progression & Chicago Marathon Preview

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ABOUT THE LETSRUN.COM PODCAST

Since 2000, LetsRun.com has been the independent home of elite running. Described by the New York Times as the "influential website that serves as something of a superego for American running," the podcast is the weekly deep dive into the world of track and field and elite distance running.

The show is hosted by LetsRun.com co-founders Weldon Johnson, a 2-time Team USA member, and Robert Johnson, a former Cornell coach who helped pace the marathon world record, along with award-winning senior writer Jonathan Gault. Together they move beyond PR headlines to provide insider reporting and unfiltered debate serious fans rely on.

Andreas Almgren became the first non-African man in 30 years to win the World Half Marathon Championships, running 58:06 in Copenhagen and reigniting debate over whether he can contend at the New York City Marathon. The US women earned team silver with three runners in the top 10, Emma Grace Hurley, Weini Kelati, and Jess McClain all delivering stellar performances, while the US men took bronze.

Jakob Ingebrigtsen was stunned in the men's 5K by Eritrea's 21-year-old Dawit Seare, who is now headed to NAZ Elite. The hosts dissect Vinny Mauri's jaw-dropping Strava training logs ahead of the Chicago Marathon, debate whether Athlos is sustainable after its third edition in London, and close with Niels Laros' Achilles surgery and discussion of Sam Blaskowski's racist slurs.

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Links

World Half Marathon Recap & Analysis

Emma Grace Hurley — Atlanta Track Club Profile

Sam Blaskowski Videos from Erin Brown

LetsRun.com

LetsRun.com Forum

LetsRun.com Shop

Athlos

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro & Weekend Preview

06:45 Weldon's 1999 World Half Marathon Adventure

10:36 US Women's Team Silver at World Half Marathon

14:56 Agnes Ngetich Dominates & American Women Race Bravely

19:50 USATF Selection Policy & Conner Mantz's Return

25:24 Vinny Mauri's Insane Strava Training

29:19 Andreas Almgren Stuns at World Half Marathon

34:10 Can Almgren Contend at the New York City Marathon?

37:43 The Case Against Almgren in the Marathon

44:29 Almgren, Rupp & the New York Marathon Field

49:11 Almgren vs Mantz & the Non-African Gap

52:37 Is the Marathon Getting Shorter? Shoes & Fueling

54:30 Jakob Ingebrigtsen Stunned in Copenhagen

60:58 Dawit Seare: World Champion Headed to NAZ Elite

64:00 Drew Hunter's Record & Athlos Meet Review

67:05 Sha'Carri Richardson's Inconsistency Mystery

70:18 Athlos Broadcast: Too Much Dead Time?

75:10 Will Athlos Survive Past LA28?

78:46 Athlos Viewership & Can a New Track League Work?

84:03 Niels Laros Surgery & Sam Blaskowski Racism Scandal

88:40 Blaskowski's Training Group & the Path Forward

Contact us:

Email: podcast@letsrun.com Call or text: 1-844-LETSRUN (1-844-538-7786)

ABOUT THE LETSRUN.COM PODCAST

Since 2000, LetsRun.com has been the independent home of elite running. Described by the New York Times as the "influential website that serves as something of a superego for American running," the podcast is the weekly deep dive into the world of track and field and elite distance running.

The show is hosted by LetsRun.com co-founders Weldon Johnson, a 2-time Team USA member, and Robert Johnson, a former Cornell coach who helped pace the marathon world record, along with award-winning senior writer Jonathan Gault. Together they move beyond PR headlines to provide insider reporting and unfiltered debate serious fans rely on.

Werjo, Rojo & Jon break down the inaugural World Ultimate Championships in Budapest, debating whether the made-for-TV format should ever replace the traditional Worlds and whether it devalues USAs as a selection meet. The crew dives into Jakob Ingebrigtsen's dominant 5,000m and his viral mixed-zone interview, plus a debate over whether Hobbs Kessler's "bronze" actually proves anything given how tight the American trio finished.

Elsewhere: Melissa Jefferson Wooden's wind-and-altitude-adjusted 200m may be the best ever run, Josh Kerr's closing splits get the stat-nerd treatment, and Nikki Hiltz finally breaks through for a global top 3. Jess Hull takes silver behind Likina Amebaw's dominant 5,000m run.

The back half tackles the newly awarded 2029 (Nairobi) and 2031 (Munich) Worlds, sparking an argument over altitude-fueled world records, Kenya's doping record, and whether skipping Europe three Worlds in a row is a mistake. Closes with Megan Eckert's six-day world record and a very "messy" Hyrox controversy.

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LINKS

WTW: World Ultimates By The Numbers, Megan Eckert's 636-Mile Week, and the Grossest Finish in Hyrox History

LetsRun.com Message Board Thread: Praise For Jonathan Gault's Jakob Ingebrigtsen Question

Fifth Avenue Mile Recap

2026 World Athletics Ultimate Championships Coverage

Matt Lawton: Kenya's Doping Record and the 2029 Worlds

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Sponsor Break And Show Preview

00:49 Budapest World Ultimate Championships Kickoff

05:04 Comparing Ultimate Championships To Grand Slam Track

09:58 Can The Ultimate Championships Sustain Financially

13:16 Should The Ultimate Championships Replace Worlds

16:19 Altitude And Future World Records In Nairobi

19:43 Debating The Event Schedule And Prelims Format

22:18 USAs Selection Stakes Under Threat

26:01 Grading The Meet's Innovations And Stats

30:59 Hobbs Kessler Third Place Debate

33:49 Ranking Algorithm Controversy And Predicted Finish Errors

37:26 Sprint Recap: Kenny Bednarek, Bolt And Lyles

44:20 Melissa Jefferson Wooden's Historic 200

47:05 Josh Kerr And Cam Myers Closing Splits

50:32 Jakob Ingebrigtsen Vs Cole Hocker Debate

53:53 Josh Kerr's Historic Season Recap

55:55 Amy Hunt Vs Josh Kerr Sports Personality Debate

60:06 Women's Sprints And Middle Distance Recap

64:01 Nikki Hiltz Breakthrough Medal

67:07 Jessica Hull And Likina Amebaw 5000 Recap

70:19 Did Americans Benefit From Weak Fields

71:46 Fifth Avenue Mile And Message Board Buzz

73:33 Jakob Ingebrigtsen's Viral Mixed Zone Interview

77:57 2029 And 2031 Worlds Awarded To Nairobi And Munich

81:59 Why Europe Is Being Skipped For Three Worlds

84:32 Is Kenya Ready To Host A World Championships

86:59 Kenya's Doping Record Under Scrutiny

90:32 Could Nairobi Host The Last Worlds Marathon

92:04 Megan Eckert Sets Six-Day Running World Record

93:09 Hyrox Controversy Sparks Debate

97:47 Wrapping Up And Contact Information

99:00 Emmanuel Wanyonyi's Stunning 800m Upset

CONTACT

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The show is hosted by LetsRun.com co-founders Weldon Johnson, a 2-time Team USA member, and Robert Johnson, a former Cornell coach who helped pace the marathon world record, along with award-winning senior writer Jonathan Gault. Together they move beyond PR headlines to provide insider reporting and unfiltered debate serious fans rely on.

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Jakob Ingebrigtsen served notice he's still the king of the 5000, blitzing a stacked field (five Americans in the top seven) to win the first-ever World Ultimate Championship 5000m title, closing in 12.6 for his final 100m after admitting his 2025 buildup didn't have a lot of real training.

He got asked by Jon about not-pushing the pace in the 5000, and left the door open on doubling back in the 1500m and eventually chasing the 5000m world record.

Cole Hocker was 2nd, Parker Wolfe 3rd, Nico Young 5th, Grant Fisher 6th, and Graham Blanks 7th.

The men's 110m hurdles delivered the night's photo finish, with NCAA sophomore Ja'Kobe Tharp out-leaning defending world champ Cordell Tinch by a hundredth of a second to become the Ultimate champion, while Bradley Franklin's third-place finish reignited debate over why NCAA athletes can't legally collect prize money they've already earned.

Timestamps:

00:00 Jakob Ingebrigtsen Wins World Ultimate 5000m Title

03:12 Supporters Club News And Rojo's Late-Night Call

05:30 Grilling Jakob On Tactics And The Cowardice Question

09:42 Henrik Reveals Jakob's Wild Comeback Training

13:00 Breaking Down The Race's Blistering Final Lap

18:16 Five Americans In The Top Seven Reshape US Depth

21:03 Jakob's Injury History, World Record Hopes, And Donovan Brazier Comparisons

24:44 Reviewing The Rest Of The American Field

29:48 Quick Hits: 800m Prelims And A Photo-Finish Hurdles Classic

35:30 NCAA Prize Money Debate And Day Two Preview

38:22 Jakob Ingebrigtsen Interview

49:04 Henrik Ingebrigtsen Interview

68:19 Rojo's Live 5000 Watchalong

80:57 Final 500m

81:58 Rojo's Reaction To Jakob winning

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EPISODE SUMMARY

The World Ultimate Championships kick off Thursday in Budapest, and the LetsRun crew breaks down every distance event in a rapid-fire preview. The women's 800 sparks the biggest debate: Robert Johnson is baffled by polls showing Femke Bol as the Olympic favorite over Audrey Werro, who has run the three fastest legitimate times in history. The women's 1500 is wide open after Klaudia Kazmirowska's stunning Diamond League final win, and Jessica Hull still chases her first major title.

On the men's side, Josh Kerr is the rare odds-on 1500 favorite after a dominant season, while the men's 5000 sets up a dream matchup between Parker Wolfe, Cole Hocker, and Jakob Ingebrigtsen—with Berhanu Balu controversially absent. Clayton Young announces he's targeting Conner Mantz's American marathon record at Chicago, but Vincent Mauri and Charles Hicks may have something to say about that.

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LINKS

LetsRun.com Supporters Club

Cathal Dennehy's Women's 800 Poll on X

Josh Kerr Exclusive Article (Wednesday on LetsRun.com)

Vincent Mauri on Strava

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Supporters Club https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe

01:10 World Ultimates Preview and Supporters Club

03:38 Ultimate Stars Madden Curse and Key Absences

06:22 Women's 800 Preview: Werro vs Bol vs Hodgkinson

07:05 Is Femke Bol Overrated in the 800?

12:41 Werro's Pacing and the Olympic Debate

17:47 Women's 1500 Preview: Wide Open Field

22:28 Women's 5000 Preview and Hailu's Double Bid

25:49 Men's 800 Preview: Can Anyone Beat Wanyonyi?

30:17 Jakob's Double and the 1500 Schedule

32:14 Wanyonyi's Dominance and How to Beat Him

36:34 Brandon Miller and Donovan Brazier's Comeback

39:58 Men's 1500 Preview: Josh Kerr and the Field

48:14 Men's 5000 Preview: Wolfe vs Hocker vs Ingebrigtsen

55:49 Clayton Young Targets the American Marathon Record

59:26 Vincent Mauri and the Chicago Marathon Dark Horses

63:53 Closing: Budapest Meet-Ups and Upcoming Coverage

CONTACT

Email: podcast@letsrun.com Call or text: 1-844-LETSRUN (1-844-538-7786)

ABOUT THE LETSRUN.COM PODCAST

Since 2000, LetsRun.com has been the independent home of elite running. Described by the New York Times as the "influential website that serves as something of a superego for American running," the podcast is the weekly deep dive into the world of track and field and elite distance running.

The show is hosted by LetsRun.com co-founders Weldon Johnson, a 2-time Team USA member, and Robert Johnson, a former Cornell coach who helped pace the marathon world record, along with award-winning senior writer Jonathan Gault. Together they move beyond PR headlines to provide insider reporting and unfiltered debate serious fans rely on.