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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

From Tenacious Change, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
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  • S3E10 States Rights vs Federal Rights
    The Constitution has been the guiding document for the United State of America for nearly 250 years. The documents cover a wide range of issues which make it possible for people in a large, diverse country to live peacefully and harmoniously, most of the time. One of the important topics it addresses is the issue of which powers are “reserved” for States and which powers are “enumerated” for Federal government. Of course, it is not always so clear. In this episode, Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus discuss the concept of states' rights, exploring its historical context, evolution, and current implications, particularly in relation to education. They examine the tension between federal and state powers, the role of the 10th Amendment, and the influence of federal policies on local education systems. The discussion highlights concerns over public funding and the quality of education, emphasizing the need for a balanced approach to governance. Learn more: The Constitution: From the National Constitution Center ⁠https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution⁠ What are States Rights and What is Federalism? (From PBS WHYY “Your Democracy”) https://youtu.be/4xKPhMesFPo?si=K9DXvbsHiYp7oo2mFederalism: Balancing State vs. Federal Powers https://pluralpolicy.com/blog/state-vs-federal-powers/ In what ways are States Rights coming into conflict with Federal Rights today in the Trump Administration? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/in-what-ways-are-states-rights-iMg.uze2Sv6dmfLDJ6Dq0w How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected]:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIPhotos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.For permissions or additional Information contact [email protected] living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded May 1, 2025, using Riverside.fm from Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, May 12, 2025.
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  • S3E9 - What Does it Mean to "Buy American"?
    Do you “buy American?” If so, what does that mean? Does it mean you “buy American” all of the time? Does it mean you purchase only those items that are both sourced and manufactured in the United States? Or, does it mean you purchase items that are “made in the USA” but with materials that come from outside the country? What about services?To “buy American” may not be as easy as it once was, with or without tariffs. In today’s podcast Lamar and Tom talk about their experiences of buying American, how it has changed over time, and explore what it might mean today. Learn more: 2024 Cars.com American-Made Index: Which Cars Are the Most American? https://www.cars.com/articles/2024-cars-com-american-made-index-which-cars-are-the-most-american-484903/ Silicon, USA: Technology That's Actually Made in America https://www.pcmag.com/news/silicon-usa-technology-made-in-america What Farm Tractors are Made in the USA? https://www.hometownstation.com/news-articles/what-farm-tractors-are-made-in-the-us-365943 It’s Your Turn: We suggest you Google this question: What percentage of food consumed in the USA is actually produced in the USA? How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected]:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIPhotos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.For permissions or additional Information contact [email protected] living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded April 16, 2025; Original Publishing Date April 28, 2025
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  • S2E8 - Truth, Truthiness, and Not So Truthy Conversations
    Civil conversations and dialogue are made more difficult when participants are not speaking honestly, are simply parroting the ideas of others, or are unwilling to consider being changed through dialogue. In this episode, Lamar and Tom talk about conversations in which truth is illusive, and truthiness is not valued.Learn more: The work of Alan Yarborough and his organization, Habits of Discourse, was part of the inspiration of this episode:https://www.habitsofdiscourse.com/How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected]:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIPhotos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.For permissions or additional Information contact [email protected] living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded April 3, 2025; Original Publishing Date April 14, 2025
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  • S3E7 - Oddly True for April Fools' Day
    On this April Fools’ Day eve Lamar and Tom have a bit of fun with some of the odd but true stories in the news. Hey, we all need a break when things have been pretty heavy in the world, right? Thankfully we have April Fools’ Day to help us out. Learn more: News stories that inspired today’s show: The price of eggs is coming downhttps://www.newsweek.com/price-eggs-rising-falling-cost-2042992 Royal Shrovetidehttps://apnews.com/article/royal-shrovetide-ashbourne-ancient-soccer-murder-880658c923b33288df42af109d25e458?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=shareTrump administration purges examples of diversity efforts in Defense Department:US military firsts among the 26,000 images flagged for deletion in Trump DEI purge https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/07/military-images-trump-dei?CMP=share_btn_url Rachel Maddow on, “Clumsy execution turns a bad idea into another humiliation for Trump” https://youtu.be/CQ90aLXmbVY?si=_pYpPc9rmkP1uPDm Deaths on Airplanes in Mid Flight - How would you like to sit next to a dead person on a flight?Couple Had to Sit Next to Body After Woman Died Mid Flight https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/world/europe/dead-body-flight-qatar-airways.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0E4.dUvM.TUuofIh1nyig&smid=url-share Mid flight deaths are precipitated by in-flight medical emergencies (IMEs). The data on IMEs is not very complete for three reasons: https://emottawablog.com/2022/05/is-there-a-doctor-on-board-in-flight-emergencies/: One study claimed there were 24 mid flight deaths in the United States in 2024 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11671026/ Emergency DonutsA toddler in Oklahoma, playing with an old cell phone that was still connected to 911, called for “Emergency Donuts.” Listen to the call here: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2025/03/03/Moore-Police-Department-emergency-doughnuts/3521741028902/ Texas Deputy wrangles a kangaroo in a red jacket:https://www.facebook.com/FayetteCountySheriffsOfficeTexas/posts/649651740932201?ref=embed_post If you are happy but you can’t show it, you can’t come to this comedy club. Top UK comedy club bans audience members with botox after “numerous complaints” https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/botox-ban-comedy-club-london-b2710893.htmlHow We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected]:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIPhotos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.For permissions or additional Information contact [email protected] March 11, 2025; Original Publishing Date: March 31, 2025
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  • S3E6 - A Table Talk on Crime-Punishment-and-Pardons
    President Trump pardoned or commuted the sentences of nearly 1,600 people who committed “certain offenses” at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. As these folks return to their homes, how do their communities respond to them? Inspired by a story of one such J6 defendant in the New York Times, Lamar and Tom have a Table Talk on crimes, punishments, and pardons. Learn more: Pardoned for January 6, She Came Home to a New Reality: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/nyregion/jan-6-capitol-pardon.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zU4.-MQ9.AiB_aYF8KsAL&smid=url-share Presidential Actions: Granting Pardons and Commutation of Sentences for Certain Offenses Relating to the Events at or Near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/granting-pardons-and-commutation-of-sentences-for-certain-offenses-relating-to-the-events-at-or-near-the-united-states-capitol-on-january-6-2021/ Presidential Pardons Under Article II (of the U.S. Constitution): https://constitution.findlaw.com/article2/presidential-pardons-under-article-ii.htmlA presidential pardon (forgiveness) does not expunge (erase) a person’s conviction. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions Expungement and pardoning are two separate processes. https://www.koffellaw.com/blog/little-known-facts-about-expungement/ How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at [email protected] and [email protected]:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIPhotos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: [email protected] to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.For permissions or additional Information contact [email protected] living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Original Publishing Date: March 17, 2025
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"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
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