The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Mike Levy and Shontelle Mixon discuss the growing risks tied to fourth-party relationships. They discuss how internal auditors can leverage technology, enhanced contracts, and cross-functional collaboration to pinpoint, track, and reduce those downstream risks. They break down how internal audit's role is evolving in a world shaped by cybersecurity, AI, and shifting regulations. HOST:Mike Levy, CIA, CRMA, CISSPCEO, Cherry Hill Advisory GUEST:Shontelle Mixon, CPADivisional SVP, Internal Audit and Special Investigations, Healthcare Service Corporation KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:38] What Is Fourth-Party Risk? [00:00:38–00:01:52] Evolution of Risk and Offshoring Trends [00:01:52–00:02:32] Mitigating Fourth-Party Risks [00:02:32–00:03:47] Steps for Maturing a Vendor Risk Program [00:03:47–00:04:50] The Challenge of Shadow IT [00:04:50–00:05:54] Data Mining and Continuous Monitoring [00:05:54–00:06:59] Beyond the SOC Report [00:06:59–00:08:27] Getting Started Without Tech [00:08:27–00:09:32] Cybersecurity as a Starting Point [00:09:32–00:10:44] Educating the Audit Committee [00:10:44–00:12:00] Real-Time Monitoring and Vendor Audits [00:12:00–00:13:09] Misconceptions About Outsourcing Risk [00:13:09–00:13:56] Preparing for the Future [00:13:56–00:15:32] Pitfalls in Contracting [00:15:32–00:16:38] First Step for New Audit Functions [00:16:38–00:17:12] Aligning with Organizational Risk Priorities [00:17:12–00:18:36] Getting Executive Buy-In [00:18:36–00:20:06] Supporting Smaller Audit Shops [00:20:06–00:21:14] Final Advice [00:21:14–00:21:58] THE IIA RELATED CONTENT: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 International Conference Learning Solutions: Navigating Third and Fourth Party Risks Learning Solutions: Auditing Third-Party Risks Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer
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Becoming a Strategic Business Partner
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Levy sits down with Rania Bejjani to discuss what it takes for internal auditors to become strategic business partners. From mindset shifts and organizational alignment to building trust and influencing change, Bejjani shares insights grounded in global experience. The conversation covers the evolving role of internal auditors, essential competencies, and how to earn a seat at the table by becoming a catalyst for strategic value. HOST:Mike Levy, CIA, CRMA, CISACEO and managing principal, Cherry Hill Advisory GUEST:Rania Bejjani, CIA, CGMA, Founder and CEO, RB Advisory & Consultancy Former CAE at VEON, FirstGroup and Colt Technology Services Key Points Introduction [00:00–00:00:37] Defining Strategic Business Partnering [00:00:37–00:03:15] Trusted Advisor vs. Strategic Partner [00:03:15–00:06:05] Earning a Seat at the Table [00:06:05–00:07:45] Shifting from Problem Identifier to Problem Solver [00:07:45–00:09:40] Transformation Starts with Self-Assessment [00:09:40–00:12:21] Hiring for Mindset Over Skillset [00:12:21–00:15:33] Why Emotional Intelligence Matters [00:15:33–00:17:56] The Multifaceted Auditor [00:17:56–00:20:43] Transformation in Action [00:20:43–00:25:34] Overcoming Resistance and Changing Perceptions [00:25:34–00:29:28] Closing Thoughts [00:29:28–00:29:59] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 International Conference Global Internal Audit Standards Global Best Practice: Small Audit Functions, Large Audit Abilities Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer
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Leading Small Audit Functions: Strategies for Success
The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, George Barham talks with Skip Langlois about the unique challenges and opportunities of small internal audit functions. They discuss definitions of a small function, advice for starting one, managing expectations, building relationships and developing future leaders in a small audit environment. Langlois also shares insights on leveraging AI and why emotional intelligence matters as as much as technical skill in a small audit environment. HOST:George Barham, CIA, CRMA, CISA,Director, Standards & Guidance, The IIA GUEST:Martin “Skip” Langlois, CIA, CPA, CISA, CFE, CRMA Senior Vice President and Chief Audit Executive, Encova Insurance Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:38] Defining a Small Audit Function [00:00:56-00:01:22] Advice for Starting a Small Audit Function [00:02:03-00:03:48] Building Relationships and Credibility [00:04:12-00:06:06] Identifying Stakeholders and Internal Relationships [00:06:13-00:08:03] Scope and Focus of Small Functions [00:08:13-00:10:22] Networking and External Relationships [00:10:22-00:11:50] Making the Case to Expand a Small Team [00:12:15-00:13:48] Recruiting and Retaining Top Talent [00:13:59-00:15:24] Leveraging AI in Small Functions [00:15:35-00:17:15] Leadership Lessons from the Military [00:17:15-00:19:42] Final Thoughts [00:19:44-00:19:56] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 AuditSphere Virtual Conference Resources: Small Audit Function Resources Exchange Global Best Practice: Small Audit Functions, Large Audit Abilities Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer
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