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How BlackRock, the World's Largest Asset Manager, Took Crypto Mainstream - Ep. 735
BlackRockās entry into crypto through its bitcoin ETF (and later on the spot ether ETF) has rewritten the record books, driving massive inflows and reshaping the narrative for institutional crypto adoption.
Robbie Mitchnick, head of digital assets at BlackRock, unpacks the story behind this monumental shift. He shares the journey from skepticism to success, how BlackRockās ETF has changed the market, and the surprises even he didnāt expect.
Plus, he explains why he believes people mistake bitcoin for a risk-on asset, what the investment case is for Ethereum, and whatās next for crypto in 2025.
Show highlights:
01:31 What and who is driving this massive amount of activity in bitcoin trading
05:05 Why Robbie offers some caution about the future of digital asset regulation
08:35 What about crypto captivated Robbie
13:32Whether Robbie was the one who āorange pilledā BlackRock CEO Larry Fink
14:37 Why Robbie thinks that bitcoin is not a risk-on asset
18:08 The backstory of how BlackRock ended up filing for a spot bitcoin ETF
20:15 How inflows into ETFs surprised Robbie, even considering fairly optimistic projections
24:14 Why BlackRockās clients always ask about bitcoinās correlation with other assets
27:22 Robbieās take on the critique that BlackRock could centralize a decentralized ecosystem
29:34 What his thesis is on stablecoins, payments, and tokenization
31:25 The reasons why Ethereum ETFs have not been as successful as bitcoin
34:14 How Robbie pitches the ether ETF to clients
35:26 Why BUIDL is built on Ethereum, a public blockchain, rather than on a private one
36:48 Why DeFiās potential is āimmense,ā according to Robbie
41:56 How bitcoin ETF options will impact the behavior of investors
43:57 What features BlackRock would love to see under a new SEC regime
45:32 What itāll take for regulators to approve staking in ether ETFs
46:33 Why Robbie is not sure which crypto ETFs might come next
48:16 Whether BlackRock will develop proof of reserves for its ETFs
52:21 Robbieās outlook for the markets in 2025
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Guest:
Robbie Mitchnick, Head of Digital Assets for BlackRock
Links
Previous coverage of Unchained on Bitcoin ETFs:
Why Bitcoin ETF Options Could Unlock Massive Amounts of Capital for Crypto
How, in 7 Weeks, Bitcoin ETFs Reached Inflows That Took Gold ETFs 3 YearsĀ
Bitcoinās Price Is Way Up. And $48 Trillion in Wealth Just Got Access
How Small Bitcoin ETF Issuers Will Compete With the Likes of BlackRock
Unchained: BlackRockās Spot Bitcoin ETF Eclipses Firmās Gold ETF in Net Assets
CNBC: BlackRock CEO Larry Fink: I believe bitcoin is a legit financial instrument
CoinDesk: BlackRock Sees Sovereign Wealth Funds, Pensions Coming to Bitcoin ETFs
Forbes: A Trump U.S. Strategic Bitcoin Reserve āGame-Changerā Is Suddenly Hurtling Toward The Bitcoin Price
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How Crypto Played the Political Gameāand Won 'Bigly' - Ep. 734
The 2024 elections have reshaped the future of crypto in Washington. With almost $200 million in donations, the Fairshake Super PAC not only backed pro-crypto candidates but also took bold risks by challenging entrenched incumbents. This strategic gamble appears to have paid off, leading to the most crypto-friendly Congress in U.S. history.
In this episode, Coinbaseās Faryar Shirzad and Kara Calvert reveal the behind-the-scenes decisions that drove this unprecedented effort, discuss why crypto needs to transcend partisanship, and explain how this election could usher in long-awaited regulatory clarity. They also delve into the global stakes of blockchain adoption and whether the U.S. can reclaim its leadership as other nations surge ahead in Web3 innovation.
Show highlights:
01:48 The journey of how crypto became so important in this election
04:16 The differences between Fairshake and Stand With Crypto
08:48 How Fairshake decided which candidates to support
12:48 How Washington reacted to the massive influx of money to support pro-crypto candidates
15:51 Why Fairshake stayed out of the Presidential race
18:23 How hard it was for Fairshake to handle its non-partisan stance with both parties
22:32 How the U.S.ās approach to crypto can be compared to how it lost on the cutting-edge technologies of 5G and semiconductors
26:41 What drove the decision to attempt to unseat Sherrod Brown, which ended up giving Sen. Warren more power on the Senate Banking Committee
32:54 Whether Sen. Warrenās anti-crypto stance has been diminished after the elections
35:28 How the industry got past the fiasco of Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX
42:07 Why Faryar believes that āanyone would be an upgradeā from Gary Gensler as Chair of the SEC
46:45 How blockchain technology allows for instant settlements, a feature so needed in capital markets
49:36 What could happen with the SECās legal actions against crypto companies now that Gensler will lose his position as SEC chair
53:22 What Faryar and Kara expect the new administration to do around crypto
56:47 How DeFi can be regulated in the U.S. and whether Trump will support the motto ācode is free speechā
1:01:37 The perception of Washington insiders about PolymarketĀ
1:04:28 Whether the technology sector will be on the Republican side from now on
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Guests:
Faryar Shirzad, Coinbase Chief Policy OfficerĀ
Kara Calvert, Coinbase Head of US Policy
Links
Previous coverage of the elections on the podcast:
Under Trump, the First Crypto President, Where Will Markets Go?
Bits + Bips: Trump Won and the Question Is: Do You Have Enough Crypto?
How Arthur Hayes Has Prepared His Portfolio for the Elections
The Chopping Block: 2024 Election Debate feat. Mike Novogratz & Shaun Maguire
Itās Not Just the Presidency. Congressional Races Matter a Lot for Crypto
Unchained:Ā
DeFi Tokens Jump on Hopes That Trump Will Provide Crypto Regulatory Clarity
What Gary Gensler Could Still Do Against Crypto in His Remaining Days as SEC Chair
Elizabeth Warren Will Be the Top Democrat on the Senate Banking Committee
Stand With Crypto Says These Races Are Crucial for Crypto. But Why?
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The Chopping Block: How Prediction Markets Outsmarted the 2024 Election feat. Laura Shin - Ep. 733
Welcome to The Chopping Block ā where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner get together and give the industry insider's perspective on crypto. This week, Laura Shin joins the squad to help break down the aftermath of the 2024 U.S. presidential election and its impact on the crypto landscape. With a new pro-crypto administration on the horizon, they explore what Trumpās stance on blockchain regulation could mean for the industry, from ETFs and stablecoin legislation to the potential of a national Bitcoin reserve. They also dig into the power of prediction markets, which outperformed mainstream media in election coverage, signaling a shift in trust and transparency. From the populist appeal of crypto to the challenges facing a divided Democratic Party, this episode uncovers the political dynamics that could drive innovation or stifle growth in the U.S. crypto market. Expect insights on the forces shaping Americaās crypto future and the role of policy in cryptoās place on the global stage.
Show highlights
š¹ Prediction markets outpaced mainstream media in calling the 2024 election, marking a shift in how people track election outcomes.
š¹ Trumpās pro-crypto stance signals potential changes for the industry, from new ETFs to a possible federal Bitcoin reserve.
š¹ The Democratic Partyās anti-crypto stance highlights a disconnect between progressive values and blockchain innovation.
š¹ As prediction markets gain popularity, more Americans rely on them over traditional media for real-time election insights.
š¹ One high-stakes bettorās multi-million-dollar wager on the election paid off, thanks to a unique strategy involving the "neighbor effect."
š¹ The Democratic Partyās focus on "woke" issues may have contributed to a historic loss, raising questions about the future of these policies.
š¹ With pro-crypto Republicans in control, sweeping legislative changes are expected, from stablecoin laws to crypto tax reforms.
š¹ Cryptoās anti-elite appeal is resonating with populist movements, indicating a potential path for mass adoption.
š¹ The idea of Bitcoin on the U.S. national balance sheet is gaining traction as a pro-crypto administration takes office.
š¹ Political choices could propel or stifle Americaās standing as a global leader in blockchain innovation and technology.
Hosts
āļøHaseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at DragonflyĀ
āļøTom Schmidt, General Partner at DragonflyĀ
āļøRobert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate
āļøLaura Shin, journalist, author of āThe Cryptopians,ā founder and CEO of Unchained
Disclosures
Links
Kamala Harris Shouldnāt Just Embrace Crypto. She Must Help It Flourish by Laura Shin:
https://time.com/7111315/kamala-harris-crypto-laura-shin-essay/Ā
How the Trump Whale Correctly Called the Election by Alexander Osipovich
https://www.wsj.com/finance/how-the-trump-whale-correctly-called-the-election-cb7eef1dĀ
TimestampsĀ
00:00 Intro
01:17 Election Night Observations
04:32 Polymarket's Role
06:19 French Whale x Neighbor Effect
14:52 Mainstream Media vs. Prediction Markets
25:54 The Future of Prediction Markets
27:26 Crypto and the Democratic Party's Missteps
30:30 Democratic Party's Superiority Complex
31:38 Crypto's Global Impact and Legislation
43:23 Predictions for Crypto's Future in the U.S.
49:47 The Return of Crypto Companies to the U.S.
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Under Trump, the First Crypto President, Where Will Markets Go? - Ep. 732
With a friendlier regulatory environment in sight, will crypto finally get its moment?
Jeff Park, head of alpha strategies at Bitwise, joins Unchained to break down what a pro-crypto approach in Washington could mean for the industry, why DeFi tokens such as UNI are thriving, and whether Bitcoin has a place as a strategic national asset.Ā
Plus, Park shares insights into how China will respond to Trumpās economic measures and explains what he means by the āradical portfolioā thesis.Ā
Tune in to find out how this new political era could set the stage for cryptoās long-awaited breakout.
Show highlights:
Jeffās main takeaways from the intersection of crypto and politics this cycle
Whether crypto has become a partisan issue
Why Jeff highlights the usefulness of Polymarket to track the chances of each candidate
Why Uniswapās token UNI outperformed the broader market
What sectors of the industry could boom with more regulatory clarity
Whether the idea of using bitcoin as a strategic reserve is feasibleĀ
How China will respond to Trumpās economic measures
What is the āradical portfolioā thesis and whatās bitcoinās role in it
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Guest
Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise
The Radical Portfolio Theory
Links
Unchained:Ā
Ether Breaks Past $2,800 to 3-Month High Following Trumpās Victory
DeFi Tokens Jump on Hopes That Trump Will Provide Crypto Regulatory Clarity
Bitcoin Just Gained $100 Billion in Market Cap Overnight. Is it Time to Take Profits?
Bitcoin Hits New All-Time High of $75,000
What Gary Gensler Could Still Do Against Crypto in His Remaining Days as SEC Chair
Haralabos Voulgarisās tweets on gambling:
Expressing concern about gambling addiction
Contrasting gambling now vs. when he started
His opposition to how much gambling is promoted
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:13 Key takeaways on cryptoās role in politics
02:38 Has crypto become a partisan issue?
06:47 Why Polymarket is crucial for tracking election odds
09:29 Why UNI is outperforming the market
11:56 Which sectors could thrive with regulatory clarity?
15:07 Could Bitcoin become a national strategic reserve?
18:32 How might China respond to Trumpās economic policies?
20:17 What is the āradical portfolioā thesis?
29:57 Crypto News Recap
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Bits + Bips: Trump Won and the Question Is: Do You Have Enough Crypto? - Ep. 731
Donald Trump is headed back to the White House, and the crypto markets are surging in response.Ā
This episode of Bits + Bips dives into what the election means for crypto, the potential crypto IPOs coming soon, why DeFi tokens are outperforming, and what changes in U.S. regulation could mean for investors. Ram Ahluwalia and Noelle Acheson join to explore this unprecedented moment in crypto and how inflation and policy changes may boost Bitcoin and the broader ecosystem.
Show highlights:
Everyoneās initial reactions to Trumpās win
How some crypto companies could have their IPO soon
Whether itās time to take profits after the substantial run
Why DeFi tokens have been the biggest winnersĀ
What the next crypto spot ETF will be and whether weāll see staking rewards for ETH
Why mainstream media didnāt see the Trump win coming
Why Ram and Alex believe that Kamala Harris was not the right candidate
How Trump won the appeal of the lower class in the U.S.
Whether immigration was key to sustaining the GDP and avoiding a āhard landingā
Cryptoās massive win in Congress
How much impact Elon Musk had in the outcome of the elections
How Polymarket has become a ānew source of truth,ā according to Ram
Why the Fed doesnāt have a need to accelerate rate cuts
Whether Trumpās policies will be inflationary and whether heāll go forward with tariffs
Whether the 10-year bond will reach new highs
Thanks to Gemini for sponsoring this episode of Bits + Bips.
Hosts:
James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard
Guests:
Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida
Noelle Acheson, Author of the āCrypto Is Macro Nowā NewsletterĀ
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:57 Reactions to Trumpās election win
03:13 Which crypto companies might IPO soon?
09:28 Is it time to take profits in crypto?
17:30 Why are DeFi tokens surging?
20:31 Whatās next for crypto ETFs and ETH staking rewards?
28:00 Why mainstream media missed Trumpās victory
33:44 Ramās thoughts on Kamala Harrisās candidacy
43:52 How Trump gained appeal with lower-income voters
45:41 Did immigration help sustain GDP?
53:11 Cryptoās big win in Congress
56:53 Elon Muskās influence on the election outcome
1:04:10 Is Polymarket becoming a ānew source of truthā?
1:10:30 Why the Fed may not need faster rate cuts
1:13:26 Will Trumpās policies drive inflation?
1:17:08 Will the 10-year bond hit new highs?
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Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.