Ethereum's midlife crisis hits the podcast as ex-Bankless and ConsenSys insiders unpack ETH's talent exodus, identity spiral, "Microsoft" future, EF shake-ups, and the Solana contender play-all with spicy takes on airdrops, real dev stats, and blockchain adoption drama.
Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, it's an Ethereum apostasy spectacular: we're joined by David Hoffman and Max Resnick, who hit the confessional booth to explain why they've left the church of Ethereum.
We kick off with David's viral "ETH is money" post-mortem: why he finally sold, and whether ETH can escape its spot on the yield farm for good. Max jumps in with an OG technologist's view on EF's internal struggles, talent flight, and the move-slow, break-nothing philosophy now gripping Ethereum's core. Is the EF just ossifying—or is it devolving into the "Microsoft of crypto"?
From there, the hosts dissect the "second foundation" meme, why Twitter doomers might not matter for the ETH price, and whether Solana has stolen the next generation of devs. Max throws down on Solana's quantum future while the group takes barstool shots at metrics, narratives, and the never-ending "Ethereum is for boomers" debate.
Whether you're a ride-or-die Etherean or just here for the schadenfreude, let's get into it.
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Show highlights
🔹David Hoffman reveals why he sold all his ETH and stepped down from the "ETH is money"
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🔹Max Resnick on Ethereum's talent drain, EF's slow tech culture, and missing the Wall Street on-chain boat
🔹Why the Ethereum Foundation's leadership shuffle triggered so much existential dread
🔹The "Ethereum is Microsoft" thesis: ossification, enterprise comfort, and is that a bad thing?
🔹Are airdrops, stablecoin and NFT on-chain metrics just smoke and mirrors?
🔹Developer mindshare —did Solana peak? Has ETH truly lost the next-gen builders?
🔹Will a new "Number Go Up Foundation" for Ethereum change anything?
🔹Solana's post-quantum roadmap: why Max thinks ETH is over-complicating the problem
🔹What happens if Ethereum stops shipping upgrades —can it just coast Lindy-style?
🔹Is the future of crypto "strong" vs. "weak" crypto, and is ETH now firmly a boomer chain?
Hosts
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
Guest
⭐️ David Hoffman, Co-Founder at Bankless
⭐️ Max Resnick, Lead Economist at Anza
“Why I Sold My ETH” by David Hoffman
https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2059371247163613489
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
03:12 Why David Sold ETH
05:26 ETH Momentum and Value Capture
07:38 Ethereum Foundation Shakeups
10:18 Max on Tech and Identity Crisis
15:57 Talent Drain and New Blood
19:29 Strong vs Weak Crypto Debate
25:28 Ethereum as Microsoft
30:02 Second Foundation Idea
35:43 Microsoft Era Ethereum
38:20 EF Money Runs Out
42:02 Utility Asset Narrative
46:07 Etherealize Enterprise Push
48:04 Bitcoin Has Saylor
53:32 Ethereum Narrative Whiplash
55:51 Solana As The Yang
58:15 Post Quantum Solana Roadmap
Disclosures
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