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The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude

Alan Richardson - Software Testing and Development Consultant
The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude
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  • The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude

    Agentic AI Software Testing and Development with Dragan Spiridonov

    2026/02/12 | 57 mins.
    This podcast episode is a chat with Dragan Spiridonov who created the Agentic QE fleet. Agentic AI for Quality Engineering. It can work with code, or websites. We will explore Agentic AI, what it means, and how to use it to improve your Software Development and Testing. Also introduce the Agentic QE Fleet and how it augments Claude Code and Claude Flow.

    We cover:

    - Introduce Dragan Spiridonov and his work

    - Introduce Agent Based Testing and Development

    - Introduce and explain Agentic QE tooling

    - Explain difference between Agentic QE tooling and Base Claude

    - How has working on this changed Dragan's view of his skillsets and role

    - How to learn: AI, Agentic AI, Agentic QE?

    - Lessons learned from building and using AI that we can apply to any AI tooling

    - Future of Agentic QE Tooling

    - Future of AI in Testing and Development

    Links:

    - https://forge-quality.dev/

    - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dragan-spiridonov/

    - https://spiridonovdragan.com/

    - https://agentic-qe.dev/

    - Overview of Agentic Quality Engineering Fleet: Revolutionizing Software Testing with AI Agents https://video.agentics.org/media/t/1_htfe35tu/370465892

    - https://quantum-qe.dev/

    - https://github.com/proffesor-for-testing/agentic-qe

    - https://github.com/ruvnet/claude-flow

    - https://agentics.org/ 

    - for video archive https://video.agentics.org
  • The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude

    AI Optimism and Pessimism

    2025/12/19 | 24 mins.
    Based on my experience with AI, am I optimistic or pessimistic. I gain huge value from AI during development, but have I managed the same in Testing? And how will the Tester role change, what do we need to do to adapt? I look forward to learning more and describe my next steps.

    00:00 - Introduction: Am I an AI Optimist or Pessimist?

    02:16 - AI, Jobs, and Management Excuses

    06:33 - How AI Changes Our Roles

    10:49 - Human Connection vs. AI: Where I Refuse to Use It

    16:27 - Building and Using AI Tools for Programming

    22:46 - Automation, Testing, and the Human Factor

    28:21 - The Future: Agentic AI, Fundamentals, and Looking Forward
  • The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude

    Mastering Automatability for Test Automation

    2025/12/12 | 42 mins.
    The answers given during a Browserstack Community AMA session held on Discord on the 11th of December 2025, following a live LinkedIn video stream. The session focused on "Mastering Automatability for Test Automation". The main theme is the concept of Automatability, which I view as the ability to automate, this personal skill is more critical than reliance on specific tools. The discussion covers various topics, including how to separate automation problems from application design issues, dealing with slow UIs and non-automation friendly third-party widgets, evaluating automation readiness, and addressing common architectural failings related to large-scale UI automation.

    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:01:27 key early lesson about automatability?  

    00:01:56 separating automation issues vs. design issues?  

    00:03:49 is slow UI a testability or automatability problem?  

    00:06:50 handling non-automatable third-party widgets?  

    00:09:20 assessing automation readiness - any framework?  

    00:11:23 common architectural patterns that break at scale?  

    00:13:37 prioritizing testability vs. automation in sprints?  

    00:16:51 do modern tools reduce the need for good design?  

    00:19:32 explaining automatability as an investment?  

    00:21:44 how do AI agents handle dynamic/third-party elements?  

    00:23:17 early signs a feature will be flaky when automated?  

    00:26:10 which microservice layers to automate first?  

    00:29:16 high-ROI automatability fixes for small budgets?  

    00:30:55 early dev–test collaboration to prevent rework?  

    00:34:08 thinking about automatability in continuous delivery?

    Join the BrowserStack Discord community and discover more AMA sessions https://www.browserstack.com/community
  • The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude

    Test Code Migration not Test Cases

    2025/10/07 | 17 mins.
    Should you use AI to help you migrate test automation code? And what should you actually migrate, the tests coverage hasn't changed. In this episode we discus show abstractions and AI can be used to migrate... and discuss when you shouldn't.

    Welcome to The Evil Tester Show! In this episode, host Alan Richardson dives into the complex world of test automation migrations. Have you ever wondered what it really takes to move your automated test execution code from one tool or language to another—like switching from WebDriver to Playwright, or migrating from Java to TypeScript? Alan breaks down the pitfalls, challenges, and best practices you need to consider before taking the leap. He explains why migrating isn’t just about copying test cases, how abstraction layers can save you time and headaches, and why using AI and solid design principles can streamline your transition. Whether you’re facing unsupported tools, evolving frameworks, or strategic changes in your testing approach, this episode offers practical advice to plan and execute a seamless migration—without burying new problems beneath old ones.

    00:00 Migration Challenges

    02:43 Tool Evaluation

    04:05 Migrating to Playwright: Considerations

    06:00 Migration Process

    06:25 Migrate: Easy First, Hardest Next

    09:37 Effective Migration Strategies for Tests

    10:23 Focusing Abstractions

    14:39 Optimize Test Code Migration

    15:44 Focus on Abstraction, Not Auto-Healing

    **1. Why Migrate—And When You Really Shouldn’t** Before any big move, Alan urges teams to get their “why” straight. Is your current tool unsupported? Is your framework truly incompatible, or are you missing some hidden potential? Migrate for the right reasons and make sure your decision isn’t just papering over problems that could follow you to the next tool.

    **2. Don’t Confuse Migration with a Rewrite** Too many teams treat migration like a rewrite—often with disastrous results. Alan emphasizes the importance of planning ahead, solving existing flakiness and coverage issues _before_ you move, and carefully evaluating all options (not just the shiny new tool you think you want).

    **3. The Secret Weapon: Abstraction Layers** The podcast’s biggest takeaway: Don’t migrate “test cases”—migrate _abstractions_. If your tests are full of direct calls like `webdriver.openPage()`, you’ve got work to do. Build out robust abstraction layers (think page objects or logical user flows) and keep your tests clean. When it comes time to migrate, you’ll only need to move those underlying layers, not thousands of individual test case scripts.

    **4. Taming Flakiness and the Risks of Retries** Migration is not the time to rely on self-healing tests or retries. Any test flakiness _must_ be rooted out and fixed before porting code. Bringing instability into a new stack only multiplies headaches later.

    **5. Harnessing AI—But Stay in Control** AI-assisted migration really shines at mapping old code to new, but Alan warns against “agentic” (hands-off) approaches. Use AI as a powerful tool, not as the driver—you need understanding and control to ensure things work reliably in CI/CD pipelines.

    **6. Learn Fast: Tackle the Hardest Stuff Early** Pro tip: Once you’re ready, start your migration with the simplest test, just to get going—then dive into the hardest, flakiest, most complex workflows. You’ll uncover potential blockers early and kick-start team learning.

    “We’re not migrating test cases when we change a tool. We’re migrating the physical interaction layer with our application... ”
  • The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude

    Building a Job-Hunting Portfolio for Software Development and Testing

    2025/09/18 | 23 mins.
    Should you have an online portfolio showcasing your Software Development and Testing skills to help get a job?

    It really depends on the recruitment process. But... if I'm recruiting, and you have a profile then I will have looked at it. So it better be good.

    Most Software Developers and Testers don't have public portfolios so that means you can really stand out.

    We'll cover the difference between different types of projects: A breakdown of project types: Learning Projects, Personal Projects, Portfolio Projects.

    Lots of tips on how to adjust your Github profile and promote your projects.

    00:00 Value of Portfolio

    02:59 Stand Out Skills

    09:19 Project Types

    12:27 Showcase Projects

    19:39 Promoting Yourself

    21:44 Final Advice

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About The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude

Software Testing expertise for everyone. This software testing podcast helps developers, testers, managers, Product and QA professionals understand and improve their software testing and development approach. Software Testing is a skill that can be treated as a specialism or developed as part of a broader Software Development Role. This podcast helps everyone their skills in Test Management, Risk Management, Unit Testing, Test Techniques, Architecture and Development. The show covers topics like: Software Testing, Exploratory Testing, Test Automation, Test Management, Software Development and Programming. Hosted by Alan Richardson, an experienced Software Developer and Consultant, we cover Software Testing and Development from a practical and experience based viewpoint. Occasional special guests bring their expertise and experience to help listeners improve their Software Testing and Development processes.
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