In this unplanned guest-less episode, Scott and Dan lean into candid conversation, venting frustrations, sharing personal stories, and reflecting deeply on trauma, empathy, and modern life. They kick things off with a raw discussion about the recurring issue of last-minute guest cancellations and how it feels like disrespect—especially when even a casual, unpaid podcast takes behind-the-scenes effort and planning. The episode then pivots into heavier territory as the brothers address a tragic child murder case, triggering reflections on the ripple effects of trauma in first responder communities. Scott, drawing on his background in homicide, offers heartfelt praise for EMS and correctional officers—groups often overlooked despite their exposure to immense stress and suffering. From there, the tone lightens as Dan recounts a hilariously humbling road rage encounter at Costco and they reflect on everyday moments that shape emotional growth. Their observations on screen addiction in kids lead to admiration for a mom panning for gold with her sons—an impromptu example of parenting done right. They round out the conversation with personal updates: weddings, vacations, time in Niagara-on-the-Lake and Saskatchewan, gym gains, powwow experiences, and some memorable moments from the golf course—including coyotes, ducklings, and a viral video involving a former NHL player and a lake-side altercation.
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Put me in coach a chat with Ron McIntyre season 4 Episode 9
Hosts Dan and Scott Jones sit down with Ron McIntyre—former educator, football coach, and now published author. They reflect on McIntyre's long-standing relationship with the hosts' family, his upbringing in Edmonton, Alberta, and his coaching and teaching career at McNally High School. The conversation is informal and personal, touching on discipline, mentorship, and legacy.
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A chat with Jared Zsombor Season 4 Episode 8
In this long-awaited return episode, Scott and Dan Jones sit down with Jared Zsombor—a long-time colleague and a uniquely experienced professional in death investigations. With a career that began in high school and spanned international war zones and transplant recovery, Jared’s story is anything but ordinary. Together, they reflect on shared experiences from their time as homicide detectives and dive deep into the world of forensic death investigation, the emotional toll of international work, and the human side of handling loss with dignity. Together, we explore: The emotional and psychological toll of working with death The invisible trauma of being the one who sees, reports, and translates death to the living The difference between the work of Medical Examiners vs. Coroners in Canada Why some scenes haunt us—and others, surprisingly, don't How shared grief and unexpected connections (like a family tissue donation story) can bring healing The importance of community and humor in high-trauma professions What happens when you finally step away from the work—and why that can be the hardest part If you've ever worked in high-intensity, frontline, or trauma-exposed professions—or love someone who has—this conversation will hit home. It’s about what we carry, what we bury, and what finally rises when the noise stops.
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A great visit with Jocelyn McLean
Today we got to have a wonderful visit with Scott’s sister in-law Jocelyn. We talked about Gitxzan, healing, racism and much more. Apologies for the couple of coughs into the mic again!RESOURCES:Edmonton Area Mental Health 24-hour Distress Line: 780-482-4357 (HELP)Alberta Indigenous Mental Health Support 1-888-495-6588 ACRONYMS & DEFINITIONS:Gitxsan: Northern Alberta Indigenous communityEPS: Edmonton Police Service @scottjones1859#gitxsan@twistedoakyogaandwellness#matriarch@djj378#addiction@tictok#sobriety@bentarrow#12step #babyduck #aa #prettywoman
Brothers, Scott and Dan Jones have both worked in the justice system for over 25 years. Their unique perspectives are often paired with remarkable guests they've met along the way. On this podcast they will discuss lived experiences, gaps and challenges in systems, stories of resilience and success, trauma informed justice, efforts and ideas to effect change, wellness strategies and much more. The topics, views and opinions discussed on this show are their own and are not representative of the current or former employers or affiliations.