Out the Mud

The crew dives deep into the NBA with a fascinating conversation about Russell Westbrook, James Harden, and what it was like competing alongside and against some of the game’s biggest stars. They break down the league’s best defenders, discuss Doc Rivers and the Clippers, and explore what separates elite defensive players from everyone else. The conversation gets heated around theatrics, on-court antics, and Enes Kanter’s controversial comments about the WNBA. They also compare different NBA eras, reveal some of the toughest individual matchups, and share stories from their careers. Finally, the episode brings it full circle with a look back at reuniting with Russell Westbrook on the Lakers.
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The crew sits down for an unforgettable conversation with Pat Bev whose journey is anything but ordinary. He reflects on his early days, growing up around Chicago basketball, and the experiences that shaped him through high school and Arkansas. He opens up about the disappointment of missing the NBA Draft, the emotions of Draft Night, and discovering the intensity of Heat Culture. The conversation continues through his EuroLeague experience, return to Miami, and the advice that helped shape his career. He also shares his “Out The Mud” moment, names his top five defenders, discusses his split from Barstool, and reveals his top five players from Chicago.
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The crew welcomes Zach Randolph for a powerful conversation about family, perseverance, and an unforgettable NBA journey. Zach reflects on meeting his father, the importance of taking care of the people around him, and rising to dominate every level of basketball. He shares stories about earning respect on the block, building lifelong friendships, and his path through college to the NCAA Final Four. The discussion covers a memorable weight-clause story, signing max contracts, leaving Portland, his time with New York, and ultimately becoming a beloved star in Memphis, where he cemented his legacy as one of the toughest players of his era.
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The crew welcomes Stephen Jackson, better known as "Stack," for a candid conversation about basketball, business, and life after the game. Stack reflects on being a dual-sport athlete, earning his first paycheck, and fighting to establish himself in the NBA before becoming part of the legendary San Antonio Spurs dynasty alongside Tim Duncan. He revisits the Malice at the Palace, playing under Rick Carlisle, and the iconic "We Believe" Warriors. The conversation also covers mentoring younger players, competing in the BIG3, building All The Smoke into a media powerhouse, pioneering basketball in hip-hop culture, what's next for the brand, and finishes with rapid-fire questions and a final check-in.
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The crew welcomes Matt Barnes to the show for a wide-ranging conversation about basketball, media, and life after the NBA. Matt reflects on the success of All The Smoke, his journey from college to the NBA, and the moment he knew it was time to retire. He discusses coaching his son, the impact of NIL on college athletics, and shares unforgettable stories about Kobe Bryant. The conversation also revisits the "We Believe" Warriors, his early NBA stops in Los Angeles and Sacramento, acting opportunities, the Lob City era, and how All The Smoke has grown into a thriving media empire before ending with a rapid-fire segment.
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