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My Rejection Story

Alice Draper
My Rejection Story
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  • My Rejection Story

    Anne-Laure LeCunff: Overcoming Negativity Bias Through Tiny Experiments

    2026/03/18 | 48 mins.
    Why does one rejection have the power to override dozens of wins? Why does your brain cling to the time you were told you're not good enough — and quietly use that story to limit what you try next?
    In this episode of My Rejection Story, Alice is joined by Anne-Laure Le Cunff (neuroscientist and author of Tiny Experiments) to explore how the negativity bias shapes our response to rejection, why the brain's survival wiring keeps us playing small, and how tiny experiments can help us break free.
    Anne-Laure explains the neuroscience behind brain negativity bias: your brain records negative experiences with far more weight than positive ones because in ancestral environments, rejection meant being cast out of the group, which meant death. This negative bias psychology made sense for survival, but in modern life the negativity bias quietly convinces us that raising our hand or trying something new is a threat worth avoiding. She also introduces the self-consistency fallacy — the belief that because you've always been a certain way, you must continue that way. This negative cognitive bias narrows possibility and keeps us stuck.
    If you've seen Anne-Laure Le Cunff's TED talk or her Anne-Laure Le Cunff Big Think appearance, you'll recognize the themes — but this conversation goes deeper into the personal fear behind the framework. Anne-Laure shares her own story of leaving Google after a health scare, launching a startup for the wrong reasons, and finding liberation when it failed. That failure became the catalyst for everything that followed, including Tiny Experiments by Anne-Laure Le Cunff.
    Together they explore how to stop negativity bias from running your life — not through willpower, but through curiosity-driven experimentation and metacognition. They discuss why big goals often backfire, why tracking metrics without tracking how you feel is a trap, and how negative attribution bias causes us to internalize rejection as proof of unworthiness rather than information. Anne-Laure Le Cunff's tiny experiments framework offers an alternative: small, time-bound actions evaluated through honest reflection on both external results and internal experience. This is overcoming negativity bias not by fighting your brain, but by giving it new data.
    In this episode they explore:

    How the negativity bias developed as a survival mechanism and why it backfires today
    The self-consistency fallacy and how past rejection becomes a limiting identity story
    Why you cannot rationalize your way out of fear and what actually works
    The neuroscience of exposure therapy and rewiring brain negativity bias
    Anne-Laure's journey from Google to burnout to building Ness Labs
    Why big goals trigger the arrival fallacy and social comparison
    How metacognition makes experiments meaningful
    Intentional imperfection and communicating your limits to prevent burnout
    The difference between toxic productivity and mindful productivity
    This episode is an invitation to stop letting the negativity bias write your story. Your brain's job is to keep you safe — your job is to decide whether safe is enough.
    Connect with Anne-Laure Le Cunff
    Website: nesslabs.com
    Instagram: @neuranne
    Book: Tiny Experiments, https://www.amazon.ae/Tiny-Experiments-Freely-Goal-Obsessed-World/dp/0593715136
    Chapters
    00:00 The Self-Consistency Fallacy and How Rejection Shapes Identity
    02:10 The Negativity Bias and Why Your Brain Overweights Rejection
    05:25 Why Rational Thinking Cannot Override Fear
    07:57 Exposure Therapy and Rewiring the Brain
    09:33 Leaving Google and a Life-Threatening Health Scare
    13:46 How the Brain Handles Uncertainty
    17:52 When Failure Becomes Liberation
    22:02 Tiny Experiments as a Tool for Rebuilding Agency
    29:35 Metacognition and Reflecting on What Actually Worked
    34:59 Anne-Laure's Own Tiny Experiments
    41:45 Intentional Imperfection and Overcoming Burnout
    46:11 Mindful Productivity Over Toxic Productivity
  • My Rejection Story

    How Abandonment Issues Can Contribute to Fear of Rejection, with Dr. Carol Chu-Peralto

    2026/02/18 | 56 mins.
    Why does rejection sometimes feel bigger than the moment itself? Why can a missed text, a declined invitation, or a breakup trigger something that feels far older and deeper than the situation at hand?
    In this episode of My Rejection Story, Alice is joined by Dr. Carol Chu-Peralta, clinical psychologist and trauma specialist, to explore the powerful link between rejection and abandonment. Together, they unpack what rejection abandonment really means, how early caregiver dynamics shape our fear of rejection and abandonment, and why abandonment wounds can amplify even small relational disappointments.
    Dr. Carol explains the key difference between rejection and abandonment: rejection is often situational and time-limited, while abandonment tends to be chronic, relational, and rooted in early attachment experiences. When someone carries rejection abandonment issues from childhood, everyday rejection can feel like proof of being fundamentally unworthy. What might objectively be a mismatch can subjectively register as rejection abandonment betrayal injustice trauma.
    Throughout the conversation, they explore how fear of rejection abandonment issues can develop into anxiety rejection abandonment patterns in adulthood—such as overanalyzing relationships, keeping people at arm’s length, or rejecting others first to avoid being left.
    They also dive into healing: how to pause before spiraling, how to differentiate between intuition and trauma response, and how gradual exposure, community, and movement can support overcoming rejection and abandonment. Rather than offering quick fixes, this episode offers grounded, practical insight into rejection sensitivity and abandonment—and what it takes to build resilience without shaming yourself.
    If you’ve ever wondered what does rejection abandonment mean in real life, why feelings of abandonment and rejection can feel existential, or how rejection and abandonment trauma shape your relationships today, this conversation will help you understand your patterns with more clarity and compassion.
    In this episode, they explore:
    The psychological difference between rejection and abandonment—and why it matters

    How fear of rejection and abandonment often stems from early caregiver dynamics

    Why people with rejection abandonment issues may personalize neutral events

    The link between rejection sensitivity and abandonment trauma

    How anxiety around rejection abandonment shows up in adult relationships

    How to pause, label, and reframe negative self-talk loops

    How to tell the difference between red flags and trauma-triggered fear

    Why gradual exposure (not extreme “rejection challenges”) builds real resilience

    The role of community in healing rejection and abandonment trauma

    How bilateral movement and somatic work support trauma processing

    This episode is an invitation to see your fear of rejection abandonment not as weakness, but as an adaptive response that once kept you safe. Healing isn’t about eliminating vulnerability—it’s about building capacity to stay present when connection feels risky.
    Connect with Dr. Carol Chu-Peralta:
    Website: www.centerforresiliency.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/centerforresiliencynj/

    Chapters
    00:00 What Does Rejection Abandonment Mean?
    03:00 The Difference Between Rejection and Abandonment
    07:00 How Abandonment Trauma Fuels Fear of Rejection
    12:00 Anxiety Rejection Abandonment in Adult Relationships
    18:00 Why Rejection Can Feel Like Betrayal or Injustice
    24:00 Pausing Before You Personalize
    31:00 Intuition or Trauma Response? How to Tell the Difference
    39:00 Exposure Therapy and Building Rejection Resilience
    47:00 Loneliness, Isolation, and the Fear of Being Seen
    53:00 Movement, Bilateral Processing, and Healing Trauma
    01:00:00 Final Thoughts: Overcoming Rejection and Abandonment Without Shaming Yourself
  • My Rejection Story

    Listener Favorite: Guy Winch on How to Heal From Romantic Rejection

    2026/02/11 | 50 mins.
    Why does heartbreak hurt so much? According to psychologist and bestselling author Guy Winch, it’s not just emotional—it’s biological. Heartbreak hijacks your brain like an addiction, making it one of the most painful experiences a person can endure. In this episode, Guy breaks down the science of heartbreak, the biggest mistakes people make when trying to move on, and why heartbreak needs a mourning ritual—just like grief. If you’ve ever struggled to let go, this episode is for you.
    Website:
    ⁠https://www.guywinch.com⁠
    Guy’s TED Talks:
    ⁠https://www.ted.com/speakers/guy_winch⁠
    Guy’s Books:
    📕How to Fix a Broken Heart
    ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1501120123⁠
    📕Emotional First Aid: Healing Rejection, Guilt, Failure, and Other Everyday Hurts
    ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/0142181072⁠
    📕The Squeaky Wheel: Complaining the Right Way to Get Results, Improve Your Relationships, and Enhance Self-Esteem
    ⁠https://www.amazon.com/The-Squeaky-Wheel-Guy-Winch-Ph-D-audiobook/dp/B004INR2VU/⁠
    Listen to Guy’s PodcastDear Therapists:
    ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-therapists-with-lori-gottlieb-and-guy-winch/id1523340696⁠
    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction to Guy Winch
    03:32 Heartbreak as the Ultimate Rejection
    09:45 Why Heartbreak Feels Like Drug Withdrawal
    14:20 The Science Behind Rejection and Emotional Pain
    19:05 The Mistakes People Make When Healing from Heartbreak
    24:40 Why Social Media Stalking Makes It Worse
    30:15 The Importance of a Mourning Ritual for Heartbreak
    37:00 How to Stop Idealizing Your Ex
    42:18 Replacement Strategies—The Healthy Way to Move On
    48:30 Rebuilding Rejection Resilience and Dating Again
    🎧 Listen to the full episode to learn how to heal a broken heart and move forward with resilience!
  • My Rejection Story

    Listener Favorite: Arielle Estoria on The Human Need for Belonging & Unfolding

    2026/02/04 | 46 mins.
    What if the fear of rejection is actually a fear of being fully seen?
    In this poetic and soul-searching episode, author and spoken word artist Arielle Estoria opens up about what it means to grow beyond who the world expects you to be—and how devastating, liberating, and cyclical that journey can be.
    Best known for her viral Arielle Estoria poems, her book The Unfolding, and her ability to speak straight to the soul, Arielle shares the deeply personal story behind her own “unfolding.” She discusses the grief of leaving behind old identities, the risk of becoming someone new, and the human need for belonging—especially when you no longer fit the roles that once made you feel loved.
    We talk about how her relationship with her husband gave her the courage to question inherited beliefs, why creativity is a core value in her life, and what it means to trade approval for truth. Whether you're in the middle of your own unfolding story or afraid to let go of the identity you’ve outgrown, this conversation is a balm for anyone who's ever felt the sting of having no sense of belonging.
    What We Cover:
    The awakening: What it feels like to outgrow the life that once felt safe

    How Arielle’s husband became a catalyst for growth and authenticity

    Grief as part of growth: What we don’t talk about when we talk about becoming

    Letting go of people, labels, and spaces that no longer reflect who you are

    Why creativity as a value is about healing, not performance

    The cost of honesty: Losing gigs, friends, and familiarity—and choosing truth anyway

    What it means to rewrite your “too much” narrative

    How her book The Unfolding and her album The Art of Unfolding were created for her own healing first

    The one Arielle Estoria quote every creator needs to hear

    How rejection became redirection—and why the work always finds who it’s meant for

    Using art to create belonging, not applause

    Why even non-artists can use creativity for healing

    Quotes That Hit Hard:
    💬 "I’d rather have friends who love me whole than love me half."
    💬 "That’s the old story. Now, what’s the new one?"
    💬 "Creativity is not about sounding good—it’s about speaking soul to soul."
    💬 "Rejection isn’t a dead end. Sometimes, it’s a reroute to yourself."
    Chapters:
    00:00 – Intro
    01:30 – Awakening vs autopilot living
    04:45 – How her husband gave her permission to explore
    08:30 – The grief of growing and letting go
    12:00 – Rejection, community loss, and spiritual dissonance
    15:10 – Redefining self-worth and belonging
    18:20 – How Arielle Estoria poems became a healing practice
    22:45 – Why her writing isn’t for the ears—but for the soul
    26:10 – Her response to low book sales and how she redefined success
    30:45 – Can anyone access healing through art? (Yes.)
    35:00 – The raw vulnerability of publishing your truth
    40:00 – What rejection taught her about audience, ego, and trust
    43:00 – Rewriting the unfolding story in real time
    Resources:
    📚 Arielle Estoria books: The Unfolding

    🎧 The Art of Unfolding – Spoken word album (Spotify, Apple Music, etc.)

    🔗 Website: www.arielleestoria.com

    📲 Instagram: @arielleestoria
  • My Rejection Story

    How to Deal with Book Publishing Rejection, & Tips for Landing the Book Deal with Allison Lane

    2026/01/28 | 1h 3 mins.
    Why does book rejection feel so personal—so final? Why does a book rejection letter have the power to stall a project for years, even when the idea still matters? And how do some authors seem to land book deals—sometimes before the book is even written—while others stay stuck in endless rejection cycles?
    In this episode of My Rejection Story, Alice is joined by Allison Lane, founder of Allison Lane Literary, a former PR executive turned book strategist who has helped every one of her clients land an agent and secure a book publishing deal. Together, they unpack what rejection in the publishing world actually means—and why it’s rarely about your worth, talent, or intelligence.
    Allison reframes rejection as a strategic signal, not a dead end. Drawing from decades in PR, brand strategy, and publishing, she explains why most aspiring authors misunderstand how the industry works, why writing the full book too early can actually hurt your chances, and how to become “book rejection proof” by thinking like a business—not a hopeful artist waiting for approval.
    Throughout the conversation, Alice and Allison explore how childhood rejection, shame, and trauma shape creative ambition, why nonfiction books are sold on proposal (not passion), and how authors can learn how to get a book deal with no money, without an agent, or before writing the book—if they understand the real rules of the game.
    In this episode, they explore:
    Why book publishing rejection is usually a signal—not a verdict

    What a book rejection letter is actually telling you (and what it’s not)

    How to deal with rejection when writing books without losing momentum

    How to get a book deal without an agent—and when an agent actually matters

    How to get a book deal with a publisher by pitching the idea, not the manuscript

    Why nonfiction authors should learn how to get a book deal before writing the book

    How to get a book publishing deal by widening—not narrowing—your audience

    Why “being good” isn’t what sells books, and what does

    How authors with small platforms still land major deals (including lessons from Allison Lane books and clients)

    Rather than romanticizing rejection or offering empty encouragement, this episode gives listeners a clear-eyed look at the publishing ecosystem—where books are products, authors are brands, and rejection is part of the filtering process, not a personal failure.
    If you’ve ever asked yourself how do you get a book deal? or how can I get a book deal without burning years on the wrong strategy? this conversation will fundamentally change how you approach publishing—and rejection itself.
    Connect with Allison Lane:
    Website: https://lanelit.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonlanelit/

    Chapters
    00:00 Rejection as Redirection—and Why Publishing “No’s” Aren’t Dead Ends
    03:30 Saying Yes Early: Why Idealism Can Quietly Stall Creative Careers
    08:45 What PR Teaches You About Pitching—and Why Most Book Pitches Fail
    13:30 ADHD, Trauma, and Why Rejection Cuts Deeper for Some Creators
    18:00 Shame, Silence, and the Stories We’re Afraid to Write
    23:00 Why Some People Grow After Trauma—and Others Get Stuck
    27:30 Imposter Syndrome, Ambition, and the Fear of Being Left Behind
    32:00 Standing Out Without Credentials: How Alison Learned to Be Unignorable
    37:00 Why Writing the Full Book First Is a Mistake in Nonfiction
    41:00 How Publishers Actually Decide Which Books to Buy
    46:00 The Myth of “Too Niche” vs. the Reality of Audience Expansion
    51:00 Why Books Don’t Sell Because They’re Good—and What Actually Makes Them Sell
    56:00 Becoming the Marketer of Your Own Book (Without Doing Everything)
    01:00:30 Building a Platform Before the Book—and Why Timing Matters
    01:02:00 Final Thoughts: Becoming Book-Rejection-Proof and Taking Action

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In exclusive interviews, bestselling authors like Tina Wells, Kristen Butler, Jason VanRuler, and Neil Patel share how they navigated the toughest periods of their personal and professional lives, and how this shaped the success they now experience today. Studies show that the stories we tell ourselves about rejection influence whether these failures fuel our ambition and propel us forward, or stifle our growth and hold us back. If your rejection story is holding you back, it is time for a reframe.
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