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- Saying no doesn't come naturally to most people—and it certainly didn't come naturally to Michelle.
In this episode of Tended, Michelle makes the business case for one of the hardest words for interior designers to say: no.
Because every yes has a cost.
Whether it's taking on a client you knew wasn't the right fit, quietly absorbing scope creep, accepting projects you've outgrown, or saying yes to every personal request outside of work, the easy yes often creates a much bigger problem down the road.
Michelle breaks down why designers struggle to say no, what's really underneath those yeses, and how creating stronger structures and boundaries can protect your time, energy, and business.
She also gets personal about the guilt that can come with saying no at home—and why honoring your capacity isn't selfish or neglectful. It can actually be one of the most intentional things you do for yourself, your family, and your business.
In this episode, Michelle talks about:
Why saying no is a skill, not a personality trait
The hidden cost of taking on a client you knew wasn't the right fit
How "small" yeses turn into scope creep and unpaid work
Why scope creep is often a communication and structure problem—not a client problem
What happens when your firm outgrows the kinds of projects you used to accept
How scarcity fear can cause you to make today's decisions based on an old version of your business
Why saying no creates space for better-fit clients and projects
The connection between business boundaries and personal boundaries
Why "no" doesn't require an apology or a lengthy explanation
How to practice saying no in low-stakes situations before you need the skill in a high-stakes one
Why the way you feel after a well-held no is valuable data
The big takeaway
The yes you give to avoid discomfort today may be creating a much bigger problem for yourself tomorrow.
A well-held no creates space—for the right clients, the right projects, the right pace of growth, and a business you actually want to stay in for the long run.
And remember: "No" is a complete sentence.
Work with Michelle
Visit our website at https://thedesignbakehouse.com/private-coaching to learn more about how you can work with Michelle 1-1. - You've probably heard all the advice: get more sleep, exercise, drink more water, take a vacation, take better care of yourself.
But what if you're doing some of those things and you're still exhausted?
In this episode of Design for the Creative Mind, Michelle Lynne takes a deeper look at the difference between being tired from working hard and being depleted by the way your business is operating.
Because sometimes the problem isn't that you need more rest. It's that your energy is being spent in places that aren't serving you.
Michelle walks through the hidden energy drains she sees in interior design business owners—from difficult or misaligned clients to social media comparison, overfunctioning as an owner, and the expectation that you should always be available.
She also talks about an important distinction between recovery and restoration. Recovery stops the drain. Restoration actually puts something back in the tank. And as a business owner, you need both.
Most importantly, Michelle gives you a simple exercise you can use this week: an energy audit. Pay attention to what takes your energy and what gives it back. Then use that information the same way you would use any other business data—to make better decisions about where your time, attention, and energy belong.
In this episode, we talk about:
The difference between normal tiredness and deeper depletion
Why misalignment can leave you exhausted even when you're getting enough rest
How the wrong clients can drain more than your time—they can drain your confidence and creativity
The comparison spiral created by social media
Why overfunctioning as a business owner keeps you stuck in the day-to-day
The hidden cost of being constantly available to clients and vendors
How setting communication boundaries can actually strengthen client relationships
The difference between recovery and restoration
What Michelle has discovered actually restores her energy
Why unstructured time and "white space" matter for business owners
How to conduct your own one-week energy audit
Why your energy is a business metric worth paying attention to
Your takeaway: You are a business asset. Your energy is one of the most important inputs in your business—and you deserve to know where it's going.
If this conversation hit close to home and you're ready to build a business you can actually sustain, visit thedesignbakehouse.com and click the Coaching tab to learn more about working with Michelle.
Design for the Creative Mind is hosted by Michelle Lynne, founder of The Interior Design Business Bakery. Ep 239: The Design Besties - Friendship, Collaboration & Designing for a Bigger Purpose
2026/08/18 | 39 mins.What happens when four professionals in the design industry meet by chance, become fast friends, and decide to use their collective talents to give back?
Meet the Design Besties: Nikki Watson, Lori Johnson, Robin DelaCruz, and Whitney Atkinson.
What started with a chance meeting at the Vacation Rental Design Summit quickly turned into a daily group text, a genuine friendship, and eventually a nonprofit with a big mission: transforming teachers' lounges into beautiful, restorative spaces that give educators a place to recharge.
In this episode, Michelle sits down with the four creatives behind the Design Besties to talk about how their friendship came together, what makes their collaboration work so well, and why they believe there is always room at the table.
They share the story behind their first teachers' lounge makeover, the emotional response from the teachers, and how that experience turned a passion project into a national mission. The Design Besties are now working toward bringing their work to all 50 states.
In this episode, you'll hear about:
How four professionals from different areas of the design industry became the Design Besties
The unexpected project that inspired them to create their nonprofit
Why teachers' lounges became the focus of their service work
How each Bestie brings a different strength to the team
What makes their collaboration work without ego or competition
The importance of creating welcoming spaces and making sure there's always room at the table
How they're working to scale the Design Besties nationally
The power of using your professional skills to serve others
Why adult friendship and genuine community can be such a gift
How designers and brands can get involved through donations, sponsorships, volunteering, and spreading the word
Meet the Design Besties (full bios below)
Rhobin DelaCruz
Interior designer. Creative instigator. Vibe curator. Rhobin has designed for names like GQ, TED, and MTV - but his real flex is helping clients create bold, joy-filled spaces that feel like them (just with better lighting and cuter pillows). Born in SoCal, thriving in NYC, Rhobin mixes West Coast chill with East Coast edge, all wrapped in global inspiration and a love for real estate, storytelling, and saying what everyone else is thinking.
Business name-- Rhobin DelaCruz Designs
Email rhobin@rhobindelacruz.com
Insta: @rhobindelacruzdesigns
Website: www.rhobindelacruz.com
Lori Johnson
Lori Johnson is a Dallas-based fine artist whose abstract work blends soft layers of color and texture to explore beauty, transformation, and connection. Featured on Bargain Mansions (HGTV, Magnolia Network, A&E) and sold nationally at HomeGoods and HomeSense, her art invites reflection and emotional connection. Represented at Dallas Market Center through McStudios and Ethan & Associates, Lori collaborates with designers, retailers, and lifestyle brands. She recently partnered with Denim Manor and Wexel Art to launch a line of textile fabrics for interiors, fashion, and home décor.
Business name- Lori Johnson Artist, Collaborator and Creative
Email Info@lorijohnsonart.com
Insta: @lorijohnsonfineart
Website: www.lorijohnsonfineart.com
Nikki Watson
Nikki Watson is the founder of The Design Quad, Dallas's leading home staging and design firm. What began with $10 borrowed from her mother has grown into the nation's largest-volume staging company, with more than 300 homes staged at once across Dallas–Fort Worth. Her work has been featured on HGTV, A&E, Max, and international outlets. Known for her motto "Create, Inspire, and Serve," Nikki has built service into her brand's DNA, supporting community charities while redefining home staging, design, flooring, and remodeling.
Business name-- The Design Quad
Email nikki@nikkiwatson.net
Insta: @iamnikkiwatson
Website: www.nikkiwatson.net
Whitney Atkinson
Whitney Atkinson, founder and inventor of WUGS Weighted Rugs and WILLOWS Weighted Outdoor Pillows, is a Gulf Coast native blending function with style. With a background in interior and commercial design, she created the first weighted rug to solve slipping, curling, and outdoor durability. Her weighted pillows also withstand harsh weather while staying beautifully in place. Whitney's innovative products reimagine everyday living by offering solutions that are both practical and design-forward.
Business name- - Founder & Inventor of WUGS & WILLOWS
Email whit@wugsweightedrugs.com
Insta: @whitney_atkinson
Website: www.wugsweightedrugs.com
Want to Get Involved?
The Design Besties are looking for schools, brands, designers, donors, and supporters who want to help them bring beautiful, wellness-focused teachers' lounges to communities across the country.
Visit their website to learn more, apply for a school makeover, explore sponsorship opportunities, donate, and follow their work.
Email: besties@thedesignbesties.org
Website: thedesignbesties.org
Facebook: The Design Besties
Instagram: @the_designbesties
Check out our latest campaign: Grizzlies Prep Teachers' Lounge Movement
And remember: there's always room at the table.- As business owners, we're really good at taking care of everything else.
We protect our clients, our teams, our projects, our cash flow, our systems, and our businesses—but somehow, we put ourselves at the bottom of the list.
In this episode of Tended, Michelle Lynne gets personal about what happens when the person running the business is running on empty. From skipping appointments and sacrificing sleep to giving up movement and carrying the mental load of both business and family, Michelle shares her own struggles with putting self-care into practice.
Because for a business owner, burnout doesn't always look like collapsing. Sometimes it looks like shorter patience, harder decisions, less creativity, resentment toward the business you built, or simply sitting at your desk for hours without actually accomplishing much.
And when you're a sole proprietor or small firm owner, you're often the single point of failure. If you go down, the business goes down with you.
This episode is a reminder that taking care of yourself isn't a distraction from your responsibilities. It's what makes you capable of meeting them.
In this episode, Michelle talks about:
Why business owners are often the first to protect everything except themselves
The "oxygen mask" analogy and why it applies so directly to entrepreneurship
What running on empty actually looks like before you reach full-blown burnout
How exhaustion can affect your patience, creativity, decision-making, and relationships
Why sleep isn't a luxury or a badge of honor—and what you're losing when you consistently sacrifice it
Michelle's experience of stopping exercise and realizing that movement was about far more than aesthetics
Why regular movement can be a form of business maintenance
The difference between being busy and actually contributing
How the "first one in, last one out" mentality from corporate life can follow you into entrepreneurship
Why the work will never truly be finished—and why waiting until everything is handled before resting doesn't work
The impact of your relationship with work on your team and your family
Why ambition and health don't have to be opposites
How being rested, fed, and physically cared for can make you a better leader and business owner
A question to take with you
If your business systems went down tomorrow, you'd do whatever it took to fix them. When was the last time you applied that same logic to yourself?
You are not a distraction from your business.
You are the person who makes the business possible.
Want support beyond the strategy?
Michelle's private coaching works with interior designers on more than just the numbers and business strategy. It's about the owner behind the business, too—creating a business that works within the reality of your life and learning how to lead well while carrying a heavy load.
Learn more about private coaching at The Design Bakehouse.
And if you're sitting at your desk right now staring at your computer but not actually getting anything done, take Michelle's advice: get up. Stretch. Move.
You don't have to earn rest.
You have to tend to yourself. - In this episode of Designed for the Creative Mind, Michelle welcomes back website strategist Robyn White of RDW Design Studio to talk about one of the biggest questions interior designers ask:
"Why aren't I attracting more affluent clients?"
Spoiler alert: it probably isn't your pricing.
Robyn specializes in helping interior designers position themselves to attract premium clientele, and she shares the five biggest reasons your website may be sending the wrong message—even if your work is exceptional.
Together, Michelle and Robyn discuss why affluent clients buy differently, how trust matters more than luxury buzzwords, and why your website should communicate confidence, ease, and expertise long before a consultation ever happens.
If you're ready to elevate your brand, attract better-fit clients, and create an online presence that reflects the level of work you truly do, this episode is packed with practical insights you can implement immediately.
In this episode, you'll learn:
Why your website—not your pricing—may be costing you affluent clients.
What "perception misalignment" is and how it quietly drives away premium prospects.
How luxury clients evaluate trust before they ever contact a designer.
Why your messaging should shape perception instead of simply explaining your services.
The importance of speaking to your ideal client instead of trying to appeal to everyone.
How your portfolio can either elevate or dilute your positioning.
The subtle design elements that create a truly premium online experience.
When it's time to invest in a website refresh—and when DIY is perfectly acceptable.
Key Takeaways
Affluent clients aren't looking for the cheapest designer—they're looking for the one they trust most.
Your website should communicate:
Confidence
Expertise
Simplicity
Exclusivity
A seamless client experience
The goal isn't to convince people to hire you. It's to create an online presence that makes the right clients feel like you're the obvious choice.
Resources Mentioned
Luxury Client Website Appraisal (complimentary personalized website review): https://rdwdesignstudio.com/luxury-client-website-appraisal/
Connect with Robyn on Instagram: @rdwdesignstudio
Connect with Michelle
If today's conversation made you rethink your own website, remember that attracting great clients starts long before the consultation. Building the right systems, messaging, and client experience will help you create a business that's not only profitable—but enjoyable to run. Visit our website at https://thedesignbakehouse.com/.
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Your designs are beautiful, but you're struggling with the business of your interior design business. Join successful interior design business owner, Michelle Lynne, of ML Interiors Group each Monday morning as she shares the processes she has found useful in growing her own 7-figure design firm, interviews industry related guests, and brings her own team of designers on for lively conversations. If you aren't happy with the performance of your interior design business, are tired of trading your time for money, and know you were made for more, this show is for you.
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