On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Prof. Anatol Lieven, Director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute. He discusses Europeâs self-entrapment over assisting Ukraine as the proxy war against Russia continues, European leaders deliberately lying to their people that Russia will imminently attack Europe and whether their populations believe them, Britainâs unexpected appearance in the Geneva Negotiations to end the Ukraine proxy war, and whether or not Europe is finally returning to a constructive role in international relations. In the second half, he discusses the Western media allegations that Alexei Navalny was poisoned with Ecuadorean dart frog poison, the potential collapse of the Western European âCoalition of the Willingâ supporting Ukraine, the collapse of belief in âliberal valuesâ in Western Europe from the Iraq War to Gaza, the farcical claims of the Russian and Chinese threat in the Arctic, and much more.