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  • The China in Africa Podcast

    Why Critical Minerals Alone Won't Make Countries Rich

    2026/07/24 | 41 mins.
    There's growing optimism across Africa, Latin America, and Asia that abundant reserves of critical minerals like lithium, cobalt, and nickel can fuel a new era of economic development. Determined to avoid the "resource curse" that enriched foreign companies while leaving local populations behind, governments are increasingly moving to ban exports of raw ores and instead promote domestic processing and refining.
    It's an appealing strategy, but far more difficult to implement than many realize.
    Wei Shen and Anabel Marín, senior research fellows at the Institute of Development Studies in London, argue that processing alone won't transform resource-rich economies. In a new paper, they explain why lasting prosperity depends on building the knowledge, institutions, and technological capabilities needed to move up the value chain. They join Eric to discuss what it will really take for developing countries to turn critical mineral wealth into sustainable development.
    📌 Topics Covered in This Episode
    Why critical minerals alone won't create prosperity
    Can resource nationalism break the resource curse?
    Why processing isn't enough to move up the value chain
    The role of knowledge and state capacity in development
    What China got right in building its mineral industry
    How developing countries can capture more value from critical minerals
    Show Notes:
    WATCH: Critical minerals and development: Breaking the structural impasse with Wei Shen and Anabel Marín
    Institute of Development Studies: China's role in critical mineral mining and its impacts by Wei Shen
    Institute of Development Studies: Living in a material world: What critical minerals mean for development by Wei Shen and Anabel Marín
    Join the Discussion:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander | @christiangeraud | @stadenesque
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
    Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP at @chinagsproject.bsky.social
    Follow CGSP in French and Spanish: 
    French: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Spanish: www.chinalasamericas.com | @ChinaAmericas
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    What's Next for China-Africa Trade?

    2026/07/17 | 44 mins.
    There's good news and bad news for African countries in the latest China trade figures released this week. On the positive side, African exports to China surged in May and June, driven by strong demand for oil, metals, and agricultural products. China's new tariff-free policy for African goods is clearly beginning to make a difference.
    The downside is that almost all of this export growth came from raw, unprocessed commodities, reinforcing Africa's position at the bottom of the industrial value chain. Today, roughly 90% of Africa's exports to China are raw materials, and the latest trade data shows that pattern remains firmly intact.
    There are signs, however, that this could begin to change. Sanusha Naidu, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Global Dialogue in South Africa, joins Eric to discuss how Namibia and other African countries are pressing China to invest in local processing and manufacturing so more value is added before raw materials leave the continent.
    📌 Topics Covered in This Episode
    China's latest Africa trade figures
    Winners and losers from zero tariffs
    Beyond raw materials and mining
    Namibia's new strategy with China
    FOCAC 2027 priorities take shape
    Can Africa capture more value?
    Show Notes:
    South China Morning Post: China's imports from Africa surge after Beijing expands zero-tariff policy by Mia Nurmamat
    China Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Joint Statement Between the People's Republic of China and the Republic of Namibia on Building a China-Namibia Community with a Shared Future for the New Era
    Reuters: China's African Tariff Removals, Trade Surge Spur Yuan Adoption by Duncan Miriri
    Join the Discussion:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander | @christiangeraud | @stadenesque
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
    Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP at @chinagsproject.bsky.social
    Follow CGSP in French and Spanish: 
    French: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Spanish: www.chinalasamericas.com | @ChinaAmericas
  • The China in Africa Podcast

    Africa's China Trade Challenge Isn't Market Access. It's Market Readiness.

    2026/07/10 | 47 mins.
    When China removed import tariffs on goods from all 53 African countries with which it has diplomatic relations earlier this year, many hailed the move as a breakthrough that could boost African exports and help narrow the growing trade imbalance between the two sides.
    While tariff-free access makes it easier for African products to enter the Chinese market, experts caution that tariffs are only one piece of the puzzle. The bigger challenge, says Jing Gu, a senior research fellow at the Institute of Development Studies, is ensuring that African exporters are truly prepared to compete in one of the world's most demanding markets.
    Jing joins Eric and Géraud to explain why African governments, businesses, and trade institutions need to strengthen their understanding of the Chinese market, build closer commercial relationships, and develop the logistics, distribution networks, and market expertise needed to succeed in China.
    📌 Topics Covered in This Episode
    China's Zero Tariff Initiative
    Market Access vs. Market Readiness
    Exporting Successfully to China
    Building China Market Expertise
    African Trade Policy Gaps
    Competing in China's Market
    Rethinking FOCAC Trade Priorities
    The Future of China-Africa Trade
    Show Notes:
    Institute of Development Studies: From market access to strategic openness: The new China–Africa business relationship by Jing Gu
    South China Morning Post: Coffee, chilies and cashews: a new recipe to spice up China-Africa trade relations by Jevans Nyabiage
    The China-Global South Project: China's Zero-Tariff Promise to Africa Masks a Deepening Trade Imbalance by Thierry Pairault
    Join the Discussion:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander | @christiangeraud | @stadenesque
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
    Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP at @chinagsproject.bsky.social
    Follow CGSP in French and Spanish: 
    French: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Spanish: www.chinalasamericas.com | @ChinaAmericas
  • The China in Africa Podcast

    South Africa's Protests, China-Africa Trade and Global South Politics

    2026/07/03 | 45 mins.
    Anti-immigrant protests in South Africa have raised difficult questions about race, class, and who gets targeted during waves of xenophobic anger. While Black African migrants have faced growing hostility, Chinese migrants and other foreign communities have largely avoided the same scrutiny.
    This week, Eric, Cobus, and Géraud examine why that is, and what it reveals about poverty, politics, and state dysfunction in South Africa. They also unpack a new set of China-South Africa trade protocols that could quietly expand bilateral trade, especially as Pretoria's relationship with Washington becomes more strained.
    Finally, they reflect on recent conversations in Nairobi, South Africa, Beijing, and New York about China, Africa, and the Global South's place in a rapidly changing world order.


    📌 Topics Covered in This Episode
    South Africa's anti-immigrant protests
    Why some migrants are targeted
    Are Chinese migrants part of the backlash?
    China-South Africa trade protocols
    Africa's trade imbalance with China
    African agency in U.S.-China competition


    Join the Discussion:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander | @christiangeraud | @stadenesque
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
    Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP at @chinagsproject.bsky.social
    Follow CGSP in French and Spanish: 
    French: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Spanish: www.chinalasamericas.com | @ChinaAmericas
  • The China in Africa Podcast

    Kenya's China Debt Restructuring Explained

    2026/06/25 | 37 mins.
    Kenya's landmark debt restructuring deal with China, announced last year, converted $3 billion in outstanding China Exim Bank loans from U.S. dollars to Chinese yuan. The currency switch could save the East African country more than $200 million in debt servicing costs.
    Not surprisingly, other countries in Asia and Africa are now exploring similar arrangements to reduce their debt burdens. But a new report from the development finance research lab AidData argues that Kenya's savings came mostly from the restructuring terms — not from the yuan conversion itself.
    AidData's Oshin Pandey and Sailor Miao join Eric and Cobus to explain how the deal worked, why it matters, and why there is more to this arrangement than most headlines suggest.
    📌 Topics Covered in This Episode
    Kenya's landmark China debt deal
    Debt restructuring vs. yuan conversion
    Why AidData challenges the narrative
    Ethiopia's restructuring prospects
    China's evolving lending strategy
    The future of sovereign debt relief
    Show Notes:
    AidData: Kenya's USD-to-RMB Debt Conversion Was Really a Restructuring by Sailor Miao and Oshin Pandey
    The China-Global South Project: Kenya's Chinese Debt Swap Comes With a Hidden Currency Risk
    Join the Discussion:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander | @christiangeraud | @stadenesque
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
    Now on Bluesky! Follow CGSP at @chinagsproject.bsky.social
    Follow CGSP in French and Spanish: 
    French: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Spanish: www.chinalasamericas.com | @ChinaAmericas
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About The China in Africa Podcast
Twice-weekly discussion about China's engagement across Africa and the Global South hosted by journalist Eric Olander and Asia-Africa scholar Cobus van Staden in Johannesburg.
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