Herm & Schrader

Jimmy Owens has won more than 500 races, beaten Scott Bloomquist for a Lucas Oil title, and just took down Jonathan Davenport in a photo finish at Bulls Gap. So why does he say the worst part of his career right now is that he doesn’t get nervous anymore?
Kenny sits down with the Newport Nightmare and The O Show to relive that win. Jimmy hits the wall on a long green flag run, knocks about a foot of spoiler off the car, and thinks “I’m done.” Then a caution comes out, the right rear tire cools off, and he somehow holds on for the $20,000 win anyway.
From there it gets good. Jimmy takes us back to the days when he worked graveyard shifts running a 400-ton press at a valve plant, then spent every weekend racing modifieds and showing up at the track of anyone who dared lead the points. He tells the story of the first time he lined up next to Bloomquist and Billy Moyer and realized who he was sitting beside. Then he and Kenny start swinging at the stuff people get fired up about:
Why local racing is hurting (and why Jimmy says the money isn’t the problem)
Whether kids even want to race anymore
What the Dome means for the sport
Whether NASCAR guys like Carson Hocevar showing up in dirt is good news
Jimmy’s answer on that last one might surprise you.

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Another year, another championship run from Kyle Larson. But at what point do we stop talking about potential and start talking about legacy? This week, Herm and Schrader tackle Larson's place in NASCAR history and whether a third title would officially put him among the sport's immortals. They also weigh in on Carson Hocevar's benching at Homestead and whether the penalty fit the offense. They also spotlight championship-clinching performances from Kaden Honeycutt and Justin Allgaier in a week that delivered no shortage of drama.

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Kenny Wallace has hit the Door Bumper Clear trifecta! All three hosts have now sat across from Kenny Wallace, and this time it’s our own Freddie Kraft. Freddie went from Long Island to the top of the spotter stand in the highest form of NASCAR, and he almost took a different road. He turned down a sure-thing job on the railroad to chase racing, and his mom was not thrilled. Seventeen years later, he’s Bubba Wallace’s spotter and co-host of the podcast powerhouse DBC.
In this one, we’re hearing some more personal insight from one of the faces of Door Bumper Clear, including things like:
What Bubba Wallace is really like, from the guy who hears him on the radio every week
How DBC went from a spotter show to the place drivers ask to come on
Why Freddie is afraid to win the Daytona 500
NASCAR returning to the Chase
How to fix the Next Gen car

The bleep button was in full effect for this one.

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This week on Herm & Schrader, we ask the big question: Is the Cup Series championship already decided? Has Kyle Larson locked up the title, or is there still room for drama heading into the season finale at Homestead?
Meanwhile, brake-checks became a major storyline at Martinsville. Were the incidents simply a product of hard racing, or should Austin Cindric have made sure Carson Hocevar left the speedway with a lesson learned?
Plus, Denny Hamlin appears headed toward yet another season without a championship. As he approaches the later stages of his career, should he consider hanging up the helmet after 2027, or does he still have more competitive years ahead of him?

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Natalie Decker led laps at Daytona, at times got dragged for it online, and still hears she’s only here because of how she looks -- so Kenny Wallace sat her down to get the real version. Natalie walks Kenny through the whole Daytona night: the last-minute sponsor deal she swore she’d never take again, the restart where nobody wanted to work with her, a radio that stayed silent for a full lap while she ran up front, and why she pulled out of the lead when the guy behind her wouldn’t stop trying to get his lap back.
Then it gets personal. Natalie opens up about years of being told how to dress and act to get taken seriously , and why she’s done with it. She talks about what Danica Patrick’s example did for her, why Denny Hamlin is her guy, and the sports psychology lesson that changed how she handles pressure. She also shares that she was born with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, kept it a secret from her friends growing up, and cried through the hardest speech of her life at an Arthritis Foundation fundraiser before asking her husband for a martini.
Plus: how a go-kart, a babysitting cousin, and a “don’t tell your dad” turned a whole Wisconsin family into racers. Kenny tells the story of racing her at Marshfield when she was a teenager. And Natalie explains how she and her husband forgot to get the marriage license, so the legal wedding date and the party date aren’t the same, and why she’s still Natalie Decker.
Originally aired 3/21/2024.



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