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  • For Heaven's Sake

    The Case for War

    2026/03/05 | 46 mins.
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    Why do 93% of Israelis support a war that much of the West condemns as a violation of international law? 

    In this special episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi dissect the profound disconnect between Israeli moral instincts and Western liberal sensibilities. They analyze the "unconscious pacifism" of the West, the reality of a 45-year ongoing conflict with the Iranian regime, and the challenge of separating leadership motives from national survival. 

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.  

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 

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    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. 

    Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: 

    Watch Donniel Hartman and Abby Pogrebin’s conversation on the war with Iran. 

    Apply or refer a teen you know to the Hartman Teen Fellowship. 

    Register for our virtual day of learning,In the Face of Cruelty: Jewish Responsibilities to Neighbors and Strangers on March 12. 

    Join Donniel for the Florida Leadership Conference, a meaningful day of learning and conversation to process the fear and confusion of this moment and think together about what lies ahead for Israel and the Middle East.
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    Thoughts from the Shelter

    2026/03/01 | 38 mins.
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    Why does this experience of war with Iran feel entirely new and eerily familiar in the arc of Israeli life? In this emergency episode of For Heaven’s Sake, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi reflect on the strange, exhausting routines of life spent rushing in and out of shelters and the realization that these rituals have become a recurring feature of Israeli life. 

    Together, they explore what this moment reveals about Israeli vulnerability and resilience: the way decades of conflict have blurred the boundary between home front and front line, the existential anxiety stirred by Iran’s ideology, and the moral and spiritual questions that surface when war unfolds during the week of Purim.

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.  

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 

    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. 

    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.
  • For Heaven's Sake

    Waiting

    2026/02/25 | 42 mins.
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    How do you go about daily life — bar mitzvahs, trips, work — when every two hours the news cycle shifts, every Israeli with a cousin in the Air Force has a take, and even seasoned analysts can't say what comes next? 

    In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi take us inside the strange collective experience of Israeli life: suspended in waiting, saturated with rumors, and bracing for a military confrontation that could reshape the entire Middle East — before anything has happened yet.

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.  

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 

    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. 

    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. 

    Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: 

    Register for this summer’s Community Leadership Program or Rabbinic Torah Seminar. 

    Educators, apply now to the Wellspring Summit for Educators!
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    Israel's Sovereignty Crisis

    2026/02/18 | 37 mins.
    Can a country survive when tribal loyalty overwhelms collective responsibility? 
    This week on For Heaven's Sake, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi examine something unprecedented: while Israel defends its borders from external threats, it's losing the ability to govern within them. From ultra-Orthodox attacks on IDF soldiers to epidemic crime within and against Arab communities to ministers contradicting national policy—Israel faces a sovereignty crisis from within. 
    - 01:35: Not Iran — Israel’s Internal Sovereignty Collapse
    - 04:15: Bnei Brak: When the IDF Can’t Enter an Israeli City
    - 06:00: Murder, Mayhem, and Government Retreat
    - 08:20: The Draft Revolt Goes Mainstream
    - 16:00: Governing vs. Surviving: The Coalition Choice
    - 22:00: From “Who’s Sovereign?” to Sovereignty Lost
    - 27:30: Tribes, Territory, and the Fracturing State
    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.  
    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 
    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. 
    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. 
    Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: 
    Listen to “America Betrays the Stranger” on Identity/Crisis.
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    The Hidden Challenges of Antisemitism

    2026/02/11 | 38 mins.
    Antisemitism is everywhere in Jewish conversation. But what are we missing? 
    Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi zoom out to examine the assault on the Jewish story, the cost-benefit calculus of Jews around their identity, and the abuse of antisemitism discourse within Israel. An exploration of what antisemitism is doing to us—beyond the fear. 
    02:00 – A New Era of Antisemitism? Old Threat or New Reality
    06:00 – Anti-Zionism and the Assault on the Jewish Story
    13:00 – Jewish Identity as Choice: Will Antisemitism Push Jews Away?
    19:00 – Defiance or Drift? Lessons from Soviet Jewry
    22:30 – Are We Letting Antisemitism Define Jewish Identity?
    26:00 – The Internal Danger: “Weaponizing” Antisemitism in Israel
    34:00 – What Does Persistent Hatred Say About the Jewish People?
     
    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.  
    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org. 
    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST. 
    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more. 
     
    Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week: 
    Register for this summer’s Community Leadership Program or Rabbinic Torah Seminar. 
    Educators, apply now to the Wellspring Summit for Educators!

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About For Heaven's Sake

For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and the future of Zionism.
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