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- In this episode, Mike Granato & Shaun Webb from Athletic Motion Golf Podcast answer the comment they get every single week: "Amateurs shouldn't try to copy tour players." Using years of 3D data on tour winners, they explain why that advice is backwards. The players in their database are not physical outliers. Many fail basic mobility screens that amateurs pass. What actually separates them is simpler movements, repeated inside a tight, learnable window, not more talent or more flexibility.
They break down why good players fall into a narrow range on things like hip turn, arm bend, and spine angle (and why bad golf swings fall into a much wider one), the "shifting through the gears" idea versus jumping straight to full effort, and why two pros with completely different builds can both produce 180 mph ball speed through technique and sequencing, not strength. Then they get into the practical takeaway: find your own 3 or 4 "dominoes," the small number of things that move your swing back into a good window, write them on a note card, and stop chasing a new fix every week. They also cover why setup (grip, ball position, aim) drifts faster than your actual swing, and why removing variables before you practice is the fastest way to actually get better.
You don't have to be a physical specimen to move like a tour player. You just have to move simply, and in the right direction.
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Chapters
00:00 The comment they get every single week
00:20 "Amateurs shouldn't copy pros" (and why that's backwards)
00:38 Every sport, you study the best and steal from them
01:12 Nobody says that about investing or car mechanics
01:50 What tour data actually reveals
02:01 Why tour players aren't always physically impressive
02:29 What TPI screening shows about tour players' bodies
03:03 Physical gifts are not the differentiator
03:35 What "95% of the database does this" really means
04:00 The trail arm window almost everyone can do
04:34 Giving the easiest solution that matches what pros do
04:56 No videos on "you must be 68 degrees open"
05:16 Teaching to a window most golfers can reach
05:47 Why "natural" doesn't mean simple
06:16 Stacking simple movements creates efficiency
06:39 Shifting through the gears vs jumping straight to full speed
07:17 Effortless power vs powerless effort
07:24 Two pros, different builds, same 180 ball speed
08:04 Why strength isn't the whole story
08:09 Why AMG started measuring in the first place
08:49 What it was like before 3D was available
09:33 Comparing his own swing to the data for the first time
09:58 Two and a half years spent going the wrong direction
10:30 Digging out of a swing hole is harder than building one
11:12 Two roads: the quirky outlier swing, or the tight window
11:42 Every great player has gone through a bad spell
12:04 What do you fix when a quirky swing breaks down?
12:36 Why players should get scanned when they're playing well
13:12 "Easier to put Humpty Dumpty back together"
13:54 The player who didn't want to see his own swing
14:04 You can't go back to old feels. Those feels don't exist.
14:30 Playing with different feels within the same tournament
15:03 Why more information beats a repetitive feel
15:04 How the data is actually captured
16:02 It's not a swing model. It's real, individual swings.
16:27 Why they rotate which players they show
16:53 Different bodies, same underlying movements
17:11 Why single-camera phone apps aren't accurate 3D
18:09 Data points where nearly 100% of players agree
18:30 No PGA Tour player has a 90 degree hip turn
19:11 Why there aren't a million ways to do it
19:43 Why playing in the windows means hitting fewer balls
20:24 Shaun's own windows: trail arm, spine angle, shaft lean
21:27 You can write your own on a note card
21:51 The lazy backswing that fakes a turn
22:11 The biggest windows of movement: any public driving range
22:38 Different builds, same things that matter
23:00 Find someone who can measure your swing
23:27 Real dominoes are things you keep for years, not weeks
24:24 Confidence comes from knowing what to work on
24:42 If you're playing well and lose it, go back to your 3 things
25:08 Setup drifts faster than your actual swing
25:29 Charlie Hoffman's grip drift story
26:01 Scottie Scheffler's molded grip
26:10 Removing variables before you practice
26:36 Target practice without aiming, and still expecting to hit it
26:59 You can move toward tour movements, just not as fast or big
27:18 Good clubface, good pivot, decent plane
27:31 Golf is designed to knock you off consistency
28:03 Find comfort in what you can make consistent
#golf #golfswing #golfpodcast #golftips - In today's Athletic Motion Golf podcast, Mike Granato & Shaun Webb discuss one of their biggest realizations from years of 3D data: your bad golf swing is much closer to a great one than you've been led to believe. Almost every move golfers think of as a major fault (the flip, the shift off the ball, the trail leg thrusting forward) is actually the natural, athletic movement done at the wrong time, not the opposite of what good players do.
The problem is that the instruction industry has spent years teaching the opposite. Take a player who flips and shaft-leans back, then tries to fix it by shoving the hands forward into 14 or 18 degrees of shaft lean, and you've sent them further from the truth, not closer. We get into why zero (or even 2 degrees back) is closer to the tour average than the extreme numbers golfers chase, why the rib-cracker and pinched-arm drills hurt more than they help, what Scott Hamilton says about taking shaft lean OUT of players, and why the club champions at every course are more lined up at impact than any of these forced positions. Plus: the Bryson divot photo everyone misreads, "science evolves one funeral at a time," Webb's Windows and the ranges that actually matter, and why every choice in your swing has a consequence.
Give yourself some grace, learn the good ranges, and be careful where you get your information.
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Chapters:
00:00 Bad swings are closer to good swings than you think
00:35 How the instruction industry teaches the opposite
01:00 The flip vs forcing too much shaft lean forward
01:18 The natural athletic move done at the wrong time
01:46 The punch-shot method that ruined his release
02:34 Why pinching the ball between your arms is so bad
02:58 The rotating arm action of good players
03:20 Why he can't get under 10 degrees of shaft lean now
03:51 The "opposite" that's all over Instagram & YouTube
04:18 Club champions everywhere are lined up, not forward
04:42 Rory, Aaron Rai, and the straightest hitters
05:00 The bowed-wrist trend vs the best players
05:20 Where that method actually came from (a "look")
05:55 The rib-cracker drill (and the bruise as a badge)
06:29 Scott Hamilton: taking shaft lean OUT of players
06:45 The 135-foot-high 7-iron college kid
07:07 Why this one's personal (the locked lead arm)
07:28 The leg thrust: closer than pinning the trail leg back
08:14 The winners all make the same big movements
09:02 Too big a shift off the ball (still closer than you think)
09:20 "Rein it in, don't do the opposite"
09:30 The Arm Shark analogy for over-correcting
10:25 The clubface-matching-spine myth
11:00 The Bryson divot photo everyone misreads
11:32 The Ben Hogan rubber-tee photo
11:54 "Science evolves one funeral at a time"
12:50 Why zero shaft lean is closer to the tour average
13:35 Tour players who played themselves OFF tour
13:56 The food & starvation analogy
14:44 How this made them better teachers (leave more alone)
15:21 Webb's Windows: the ranges that matter
15:47 Rotation at impact: huge range, least correlation
16:12 Why 4 degrees of shaft lean beats 14 for most golfers
16:32 Be careful where you get your information
16:51 Why your drills leave "fingerprints" in your swing
17:32 Natural vs manufactured movement patterns
17:51 Give yourself grace, get a qualified eye
18:13 Learn the good ranges (2 to 8 degrees of shaft lean)
18:51 Choices and consequences
#golf #golfswing #golfpodcast #shaftlean #golftips - For today's podcast, Mike Granato & Shaun Webb's guest is Nick Duffy, Director of Instruction at Athletic Motion Golf and coach of the 2024 NCAA individual champion. Nick started working with his star pupil at 14 and rebuilt an unorthodox, already-winning swing into a championship game...so we dug into everything he's learned about developing junior golfers, and why so much talent gets wasted.
We cover the growth-spurt "drop-off" (why bones grow first, muscles second, and the nervous system last — and what it does to a young swing), the two things that quietly end junior careers, how over-involved parents can drive a kid out of the game, and the coach-vs-parent line (the famous Butch Harmon & Earl Woods conversation). Nick shares his student's wild path — two years of Singapore military service, visualizing his swing on a Navy boat, then qualifying for a college event straight off the boat — and the mental fortitude that mattered more than any technique. Plus: building a backup shot for the days your swing isn't there, the "smaller field" mindset, and inside-the-ropes stories from the 2024 Masters and US Open at Pinehurst.
Then we get into instruction: why the trail arm is the #1 fault masking everything else, the "parlor trick" of fixing the backswing so impact fixes itself, why the best players want the simplest information, and why your body pivot has to match your shot shape.
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Chapters:
00:00 Meet Nick Duffy — coach of a 2024 NCAA champion
00:36 Taking over his star pupil at 14
01:00 Coaching juniors as their bodies change
01:49 Bones, muscles, nervous system: the growth-spurt drop-off
02:37 Why being a world-beater at 12 doesn't matter
02:54 The two things that end junior careers
03:08 The world-beater who got caught at 12
03:48 Juniors who've never faced adversity
04:04 How to manage the parents
04:33 "I need a parent so I can be the coach" (Butch & Earl)
05:38 The COVID parent problem: too many cooks
06:18 The dad who drives his kid out of the game
07:10 Developing talent: what to lean into, what to avoid
07:53 Mental toughness as the building block
08:00 Periodization: train to play, don't play to train
09:22 What made him stand out: always ready to work
10:11 20 coaches following him at the Junior Jones Cup
10:37 The "funnel": each level sheds a quirk
11:18 Why coaches fear changing a winning junior
12:33 Two years of Singapore military service
12:53 Visualizing his swing on a Navy boat
13:14 Qualifying straight off the boat at Georgia Tech
14:11 Why mental fortitude beats technique
15:02 David Toms: his A-game in only 20% of his wins
15:22 Building a backup shot for bad days
16:08 Golf's version of "setting a screen"
17:23 Why average players give up (and champions don't)
19:10 The "smaller field" mental trick
20:50 "Good luck doing that four days in a row"
21:46 Why male juniors have no sense of mortality
22:06 His rise at Georgia Tech & winning the NCAA title
23:02 Inside the 2024 Masters & US Open (Pinehurst)
24:34 What Pinehurst exposed in his game
25:46 His game now: driving & putting are the keys
26:02 The best wedge game Bruce Heppler ever saw
26:18 Turning pro & the DP World Tour plan
26:43 From champions to guys breaking 85
27:42 What Gears would've changed years ago
28:23 Why the tech makes change simple ("a feel machine")
30:33 The trail arm: the amateur's #1 issue
31:46 How tour trends (like DJ) creep into your swing
32:27 Why golfers are the worst at diagnosing themselves
35:28 The scratch golfer who canceled for "too simple"
36:03 What a champion works on now: setup & backswing
37:00 The new trail-arm training aid
37:17 The "parlor trick": fix the backswing, impact follows
39:13 The mental stick-to-itness a swing change takes
41:27 Closing advice for strugglers & junior parents
42:00 Why your pivot has to match your shot shape
42:59 Make sure your coach knows their tech (2.5D vs 3D)
43:41 The parent lesson: include them, don't fight them
44:14 "Timmy's not Tiger" — find a better path
#golf #golfpodcast #athleticmotiongolf #golftips - Over 10 million swings have now been captured on the Swing Coach app and one pattern dominates: the club sucked inside on the takeaway, then thrown steep and over the top coming down. Walk any driving range and you'll see this "sledgehammer" move everywhere. In this video we break down why it's so hard to play good golf from there, and exactly how to fix it — starting where it actually begins: the takeaway.
We cover why we're "backswing teachers" (organize the backswing and the downswing largely fixes itself), why the pros' simpler moves — arms in front, a decent pivot, nothing too sideways — are the reason they can rely on them, and why chasing outliers like Jim Furyk is a losing bet. Then we walk through the real fix using Swing Coach's instant feedback: why your first true on-plane takeaway will feel like a "10 outside," why you have to push way past what feels right, how to get through the bad shots as your release pattern catches up, and the "parlor trick" of fixing a steep downswing without ever talking about the downswing.
You can't afford a tour coach standing next to you every swing — but the app gives you that instant "too much / not enough" feedback so you can finally train your feel on your own.
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Chapters:
00:00 Over 10 million swings on Swing Coach
00:26 Golf's most common pattern: inside & steep
01:00 The "sledgehammer" swing that rules the range
01:23 Even scratch golfers who do it have holes
01:44 Why you can't change direction from inside
02:04 Technically possible, but not likely for you
02:23 Our philosophy: organize the backswing (Scott Hamilton)
02:42 "Tell the average golfer to do that" — who this is for
03:22 If inside/over-the-top was best, the tour would do it
03:45 The lottery analogy
04:03 Why vanilla swings are easier to maintain
04:25 "I don't have time to hit balls like a pro"
04:42 Pros grind for tight margins, not complex moves
05:35 Pulling the arms in = disconnected & out of sequence
05:56 The outlier trap (Jim Furyk)
06:41 Back to Swing Coach: keep doing it, or change
06:59 Attacking the inside-up-steep pattern
07:22 Get the backswing mass in a spot that shallows
07:40 Your first on-plane takeaway feels "10 outside"
08:17 Why it has to feel so drastic at first
08:37 "What to work on" is the first 5 minutes of a lesson
09:41 "Did I do it?" — intent isn't change
10:21 Why you never push far enough past your feel
10:41 Arguing with the app (and losing)
11:17 Do something that feels silly
11:54 Getting through the bad shots (the release)
12:27 Why we use foam balls
12:48 The "parlor trick": fix the takeaway, ignore the downswing
13:00 Physically setting the player in position
13:39 Shallow, on plane, with shaft lean — first time ever
14:17 Be an athlete in the downswing, not a corrector
14:35 Why Scott Hamilton teaches the backswing
14:59 The downswing changes from the backswing change
15:09 How to eat an elephant: one bite at a time
15:34 Get the free trial — take it on the course
15:50 Check your swing report over a few days
16:13 Train your feel on your own
#golf #golfswing #overthetop #insidetakeaway #golftips #swingcoach - On this episode of the Athletic Motion Golf Podcast, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb reveal something they've spent over 10 years building.
After more than a decade giving 3D lessons, we kept seeing the same fault in 99% of golfers: the trail arm. It over-bends, pulls behind the rib cage, and lowers — and that combination is what sends the club steep and over the top in transition. We tried every training aid out there to fix it, and never loved any of them: they were cumbersome, they didn't fit every arm, and worst of all, most did the work FOR you — so nothing transferred once you took them off.
So we built our own. In this episode we walk through the whole journey...the forearm braces golfers used as a "door stop," the velcroed squeaky dog toys, the adult swimmies (yes, the Nelly Korda ones), and the version with teeth that "chewed up my arm like a shark" — right up to the finished design: the Arm Shark. It gives you two kinds of instant feedback — a tactile give and an audible click — the moment your trail arm bends too much, so you do 100% of the movement yourself. No app, no Bluetooth, just old-school analog pass/fail. In testing we're seeing 30–40° of arm-bend change in just a few swings, and it works for the takeaway, the downswing (staying wide like Hunter Mahan), setup, and short game. It ships with three fins for every arm type and skill level.
This kicks off the next phase of AMG — turning a decade of data into tools that make these concepts tangible in your very next practice session.
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Chapters:
00:00 A role reversal — and something new
00:14 How this all came to be
00:29 The same faults, lesson after lesson, in 3D
00:44 The trail arm: golf's #1 problem
01:24 Over-bent, pulled behind, and lowered
01:49 Why that creates a steep, over-the-top move
01:56 We tried every training aid out there
02:12 The fatal flaw: they do the work for you
02:35 Why the trail side is "out of sight, out of mind"
03:21 The real test: does it transfer without the aid?
04:10 What we wanted: tactile AND audible feedback
05:00 Show & tell: the forearm brace
05:37 Why your forearm can't feel it (the "door stop")
06:04 It actually made arm-lowering worse
06:31 The velcroed squeaky dog toys
07:32 The adult swimmies (yes, the Nelly Korda ones)
07:54 The "cast" problem: it springs back worse
09:01 Making golfers "pay a price": the teeth version
09:45 "It chewed up my arm like a shark"
10:07 Letting Mother Nature design it
10:56 The breaking fin → the audible click
11:17 Introducing the Arm Shark
11:40 How it works: the click and the give
12:24 Fixing the "lawnmower" takeaway
12:42 30-40° of change in a few swings
13:23 Using it for setup & fin rotation
14:20 Three fins: over-bender, pro, and the "Rory" fin
15:25 Multi-size: bicep or forearm, any arm
15:51 So light you can wear it on the course
17:16 The biggest problem in golf, solved analog
17:38 No app, no Bluetooth — just pass/fail
18:08 It becomes a game in a couple swings
18:52 It works in the downswing too (stay wide)
19:13 Hunter Mahan's wide-arm move
19:36 Why not folding = a shallower club
20:21 AMG's next phase: from concepts to tools
22:36 How to get your Arm Shark
#golf #golfswing #golftraining #armshark #golftips #overthetop
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